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Some other quotes:

When using this device, obey all laws and respect local
customs, privacy and legitimate rights of others, including
copyrights. Copyright protection may prevent some images,
music, and other content from being copied, modified, or
transferred.
Implies DRM?

Your service provider may have requested that certain
features be disabled or not activated in your device. If so,
these features will not appear on your device menu. Your
device may also have customized items such as menu names,
menu order, and icons.
Implies sponsored contract with custom firmware?

Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
Remember what I said about not making up stuff? What second stage are you talking about? If you're refering to what I said about the phone guessing where you are, it's not uploading anything but using cell phone towers to figure out where you are. No connections, no uploading. Same stuff most phones today can do.
GSM triangulation, indeed.

Maybe he refers to Skyhook Wireless API. If that database is online instead of offline. But I'm not sure such is used.

Originally Posted by joppu View Post
AVI is just a container. It can have, for example, DIVX or XVID video inside it.

See, http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications/
Yes, I know, and I know the difference between the manual and your linked page; its the reason I posted that statement.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Implies DRM?
Implies sponsored contract with custom firmware?
I think these are just boilerplate legalese that have little or no relation to the actual device or its software.
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Don't take that stuff as implying anything. It's standard Nokia boilerplate stuff.
 

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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
That's fine. The manual's just wrong then.
Are you an authority on this?

I'm not being snarky....really....I just want to know if the manual is simply mis-worded.
 
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Originally Posted by Hogwash View Post
Are you an authority on this?

I'm not being snarky....really....I just want to know if the manual is simply mis-worded.
Manuals are often written way ahead of the actual product. That's why almost every product on the market has errata on their website afterwards. The manual was probably written in Finland by non-native speakers so there's plenty of Finnglish and weird syntax and stuff like that on top of it, so it's very possible that it was misworded.
 

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#36
"What second stage are you talking about?"

OK, it may not be formally called "second stage", but logically there must be a multi-step process here:

1) Acquire GPS location
2) Attempt to refine (1) with GPRS 'triangulation' algorithm
3) Send location to server to obtain textual geotag labels.

Why this can't be done with a WLAN connection is odd. OK, so you don't have the (2) GPRS-refined location, but you could still be in the right ballpark.
 
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why would the gps need to be refined by the gprs? the gps should be more exact right?
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The manual has lots of typos. A bit disappointing.

I hope it isn't the final version.
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Originally Posted by Hogwash View Post
"What second stage are you talking about?"

OK, it may not be formally called "second stage", but logically there must be a multi-step process here:

1) Acquire GPS location
2) Attempt to refine (1) with GPRS 'triangulation' algorithm
3) Send location to server to obtain textual geotag labels.

Why this can't be done with a WLAN connection is odd. OK, so you don't have the (2) GPRS-refined location, but you could still be in the right ballpark.
GPRS triangulation or whatever they do is FAR less accurate than GPS. I haven't seen anything about 3 yet.
 
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Originally Posted by bobthebuilder View Post
This device uses Maemo 5 software on Linux.

This sentence gave me shivers. I know its nothing new, since the 770, n800, n810, Google Android etc all run on linux, but to see it in writing in a manual, on a device as open as the n900 by a major company like Nokia bodes well for the future of Linux and Open Source Software.

What? That's not a phone running Linux.
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