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#31
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Your example is a Windows Media Audio (WMA) stream delivered via Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol. The standard media player in OS2007 doesn't support WMA, so you're out of luck there. OS2008 adds Windows Media support in the standard media player, but I don't know that it supports MMS. (EDIT: It does. See below.)

MPlayer may provide better support for WMA and MMS, but I wouldn't know. I don't use it.

EDIT: The standard media player in OS2008 does support MMS and works with this stream. It just can't parse the ASX file.

Try this link.

Here's how to get that link on your own:
  1. Go to the same page you provided as an example above.
  2. Locate where the page says, "Standard Player: Windows Media". It's in the upper right corner.
  3. Save the ASX file linked to by "Windows Media".
  4. Open the ASX file in a text editor, and copy one of the MMS URLs.
  5. Paste the MMS URL into the address field of a web browser.
sjgadsby, not sure why but the link you did for WGUL quit working. Wonder why it did work but now does not?

Jack
 
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#32
Originally Posted by Capt Jack View Post
sjgadsby, not sure why but the link you did for WGUL quit working. Wonder why it did work but now does not?

Jack
I'm not sjgadsby but did you try those steps to find out perhaps the changed mms-address. It is a pity that OS2008 has so poor .asx support. mms-streams change more often than the containers .asx file name. At least the following address works for me for WGUL:

mms://a1542.l3072827204.c30728.g.lm....fp=0002&upos=1
 
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#33
Ism, thank you for your response. I tried your link and it does work.

I did try the steps which sjgadsby outlined but I got lost in the step of opening in the text editor and copy a mms: url. I probably need to spend more time to figure it out.

Thanks again.
Jack
 
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#34
None of the links posted are working any longer.

What happened?
 
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#35
Originally Posted by Capt Jack View Post
None of the links posted are working any longer.

What happened?
Perhaps they changed again

Try these

Philadelphis's Christian Radio
mms://a777.l3072826414.c30728.g.lm.a...N0-kJa-ApDFLwq

WGKA
mms://a1641.l3072827591.c30728.g.lm....QT-kJa-ynGCFwn

WOKV AM
mms://uni4.cox.streamaudio.com/WOKV_AM

WABC-AM
mms://mmslb.eonstreams.com/abc_ny_ne...amplaylist.asf

WLS-AM
mms://mmslb.eonstreams.com/abc_il_chicago_wls_am.asf


Tried these with my Win XP so they might not work with NIT.
 
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#36
WOKV, WABC & WLS work fine...the other two do not.

It would be great if you can get WGUL working again
http://860wgul.townhall.com/radioplayer/player.aspx


Thanks.
 
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#37
Originally Posted by Capt Jack View Post
WOKV, WABC & WLS work fine...the other two do not.

It would be great if you can get WGUL working again
http://860wgul.townhall.com/radioplayer/player.aspx


Thanks.

Was the first one WFIL AM560 or 990AM WNTP?

WFIL AM560
mms://a1505.l3072826431.c30728.n.lm....Yl-kJa-wpCCLwt

990AM WNTP
mms://a777.l3072826414.c30728.g.lm.a...3H-kJa-ypDCIxn

WGUL is
mms://a1542.l3072827204.c30728.g.lm....RX-kJa-BpECFyw

Inside the http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live...905_050913.asx are also other mms-addresses for WGUL which might work.
 
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#38
Ism, thank you very much...all the links worked except the last one.

Can you easily describe how you get the links to work on the N800?

Thanks,
Jack
 
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#39
Originally Posted by Capt Jack View Post
Can you easily describe how you get the links to work on the N800?
Your Internet radio stations are streaming Windows Media via MMS. They're not just linking to the MMS streams directly though, instead the radio station web sites link to ASX files.

ASX files are metafiles. They don't contain any audio or video information themselves, instead they're fairly simple text files* that point to the real audio/video stream(s).

The idea is that the average web browser isn't smart enough to know how to handle audio/video thing-a-ma-bobs like MMS. So, web developers don't let web browsers see MMS URLs. Instead, they hide the MMS URLs inside ASX files.

Now, a web browser isn't smart enough to know what ASX files are either, but the web browser does know enough to hand the files off to a media players that does. (On Windows machines, Windows Media Player usually fills this role.) Since the media player does understand ASX, it can open the file up, read it, and begin pulling in the MMS stream listed within.

The problem you've run into is that Media Player on Nokia Internet tablets claims to understand ASX, but really doesn't. So, when Media Player is handed a ASX file by a web browser on your tablet it opens it, boggles, and throws an error, even though there's an MMS link (or links) inside the file that it is perfectly capable of playing.

So, what you can do is save the .asx file from your Internet radio station web site to, say, a Windows computer. You now have a local copy of the ASX metafile that confuses Media Player. Rename that file from .asx to .txt (for instance, "blah.asx" would become "blah.txt"), and open the file in Notepad. Within the file, look for URLs that start with mms:// and try those out in the web browser on your tablet. The browser will hand the URLs off to Media Player, which--with a little luck--will play the stream.

It's easiest to save a ASX file if your Internet radio station web site offers a "Listen in stand alone player" type link. If the only way to listen to a particular station is through a media player embedded in the web page, it can be more difficult to get the ASX file. (If you're on a Mac, listening to Windows Media streams via Flip4Mac in QuickTime, try the "Save as source" option in the embedded player.)

Not every Windows Media Internet radio station will have MMS URLs in an ASX file, but most will. Also, some Internet radio stations may include multiple MMS links within the ASX file. Often these links all lead to the same stream, but not always.


* Okay, technically they're XML files, but you can ignore that.
 

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#40
sjgadsby, what a great explanation ... even I understand it!!

Thank You.
 
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