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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Quote of the Day!!
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2008-02-08
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Anyway I think its good bootup sometimes, I am sure it works better if you turn it off/on sometimes 
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2008-02-09
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Okay, it's been a couple of days now that I've followed the advice on this thread (i.e. not powering down my N800). Instead I set mode to Offline and then Lock screen & touchpad.
Before (with frequent power-down & reboots) I was charging the unit twice a day.
Now, leaving the N800 in a stand-by state, the battery is lasting for days!
In the HOW-TO guide, this power philosophy should be the very first item for new users.
Before (with frequent power-down & reboots) I was charging the unit twice a day.
Now, leaving the N800 in a stand-by state, the battery is lasting for days!
In the HOW-TO guide, this power philosophy should be the very first item for new users.
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2008-02-09
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Originally Posted by rdcinhou
I think the problem here may be cultural. In Europe and Asia virtually everyone has a mobile phone (and I do mean everyone, even grandparents and children) so they're used to having a portable device that they never ever switch off.
Okay, it's been a couple of days now that I've followed the advice on this thread (i.e. not powering down my N800). Instead I set mode to Offline and then Lock screen & touchpad.
Before (with frequent power-down & reboots) I was charging the unit twice a day.
Now, leaving the N800 in a stand-by state, the battery is lasting for days!
In the HOW-TO guide, this power philosophy should be the very first item for new users.
Nokia is a European company so it possibly assumed that most people would know they shouldn't switch off the tablets.
Unfortunately the tablets seem to be most popular in North America, which doesn't have the same kind of "cellular culture". The mobile phone ownership percentage in the USA is very very low compared to other rich nations.
I'm constantly amazed by how many Americans say they don't own a mobile phone yet they own a $500 PDA, which to me (a European) is like saying you own a limousine but not a car. A mobile phone is the workhorse of Europeans and Asians, but many Americans still seem to regard it as a luxury.
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2008-02-09
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Originally Posted by brashley46
Well, no, the devices can be suspended in the typical deep-sleep mode of most computers, but hardware watchdog is gonna step in and reboot the thing for you because it thinks it's dead.
If I can chime in here, my old Zaurus is hardly ever powered off either. It does have a "suspend" button, however, which seems to be something the N8x0s lack, am I right?
Really, though, ARM at idle isn't all that different from ARM suspended for the short-term.
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2008-02-09
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Originally Posted by Mika73
That's windowsism, that is.
Anyway I think its good bootup sometimes, I am sure it works better if you turn it off/on sometimes
But, to be honest, ITOS appears to be rather frugal with runaway processes and for the regular user (that is: the user Nokia claims is its target audience) it's not that evident to kill them off.
So, congrats to Nokia for turning mobile Linux more into mobile Windows. What's next? A BSOD?
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
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2008-02-11
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Originally Posted by krisse
Good thread. I was turning it off if it was going to be off for at least a few hours. I'm move out to more like I do my PC - I generally turn it off only at night.
Unfortunately the tablets seem to be most popular in North America, which doesn't have the same kind of "cellular culture". The mobile phone ownership percentage in the USA is very very low compared to other rich nations.
I'm constantly amazed by how many Americans say they don't own a mobile phone yet they own a $500 PDA, which to me (a European) is like saying you own a limousine but not a car. A mobile phone is the workhorse of Europeans and Asians, but many Americans still seem to regard it as a luxury.
And we're toying with getting rid of our cellphones. $67 /month that could go somewhere else. A gadget like a PDA is a one-time charge. Cellphone service costs you every month.
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2008-02-12
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
Well, I think this is the reason why Europe and America differ so much, American mobile phone networks rip people off really really badly with their high prices, ridiculous restrictions and poor coverage.
And we're toying with getting rid of our cellphones. $67 /month that could go somewhere else. A gadget like a PDA is a one-time charge. Cellphone service costs you every month.
America should have been leading the world with adoption of mobile phones as Motorola was a real pioneer in this field, but the US industry seems to have been held back by some greedy phone network operators who want to reduce competition as much as possible and lock customers into using their service.
The situation here in Europe is very different. My minimum monthly charge on my phone network here in Finland is about one US dollar, with unlimited outgoing calls anywhere nationally any time costing about 10 US cents a minute. I can use any device I like from any manufacturer, the network doesn't care where I put my SIM card or what I use it for. I'm not on any contract so I could cancel or switch to another network at any time without any penalty. If I pay 10 euros (about 12 dollars) a month I can get uncapped mobile data at 3G speeds. They also let people make free VOIP calls through their unlimited data service.
And Europeans have never ever had to pay to receive calls, it was utterly astonishing to hear that some Americans have had to put up with that kind of charge.
In fact at one point there was a network here in Finland which actually paid people to receive calls, because they shared a bit of the profit they made from the person ringing (the advertisements for this network featured people overjoyed at being coldcalled by various salesmen because it was putting money in their bank).
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2008-02-12
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and I bet Finland has actual heathcare that takes care of folks too?
http://www.laakariliitto.fi/e/healthcare/
yup...congrats to Finland for actually having a civilized country. Wish we did here.
Do you need a dependent?
http://www.laakariliitto.fi/e/healthcare/
yup...congrats to Finland for actually having a civilized country. Wish we did here.
Do you need a dependent?
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2008-02-12
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Originally Posted by brecklundin
Was it really necessary to drag your political non-sense into this thread?
and I bet Finland has actual heathcare that takes care of folks too?