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And depending on success of N810 and of course N800 Nokia will weight what to do with this ITT field. And that field is very narrow I'm afraid.
 
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Originally Posted by nahkiainen View Post
Why would Nokia manufacture 2 almost similar products simultaneously, when they know that you would be as happy with N810 that you are with N800. It costs money and they don't want to spend it.
Because they are not similar. Price is just as important feature as any technical detail... it's just like futures said, price differentiation is essential when you're maximizing profits.

The classic cafe example: the dozen different coffees available at the coffee shop aren't there because they are so different products, they're there so the coffee shop can ask 4€ from people who are prepared to pay that and 2€ from people who won't buy more expensive coffee...

I don't know why you cry about this? If there will be a new ITT device after 2-3 years, I'm sure it will have lot of new features like wimax etc. You can use your N800 till' that day.

And generally I think that lifetime for all consumer IT products incl. mobile phones is about 2-3y anyway.
Many of us are here because open source has the potential to change that game... Look at the long time some Zauruses have stayed alive. Internet Tablets aren't "free enough" yet of course, but if we had free wifi drivers, we'd be pretty close.

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Everybody seems to be assuming that Nokia will not replace the N800 with another better/cheaper low-end model. They make cheap phones too, so why not a cheap IT.

I don't know (anything) , but maybe they can see a way to make an even cheaper entry-level device for say $150...

Or maybe they are just going to refresh the N800 to use more common parts from the N810 - like the screen. We get a better N800 and they save money.
 

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The classic cafe example: the dozen different coffees available at the coffee shop aren't there because they are so different products, they're there so the coffee shop can ask 4€ from people who are prepared to pay that and 2€ from people who won't buy more expensive coffee...

Yea.. but if you haven't noticed, Nokia is selling electronic devices - not coffee. N800 is old model and you can't change it. So stop the BS. I will.

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Jussik's comments aren't BS. His analogy works, coffee, tablets, cars or what have you. It's an extremely broadly applicable analogy.

Also-- can't do anything with the N800??? Are you stoned?

EDIT: ok, just saw your edit.

But I still disagree. The N800 could be refreshed... into, say, an N801 or somesuch. Nothing to stop that at all.
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Future will show us.
 
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So can the past and present.
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I think we already know the past.
 
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Hm-m. I wonder if what we're seeing is preparation first for a Wimaxed N800 and then a Wimaxed N810.

Call them the N820 and N830.

No reason to keep the N800 around with a more powerful N820 out.

And we've all seen the photos of the putative N830.

Personally, I think one of the core strategies Nokia has been following is to price this device as low as possible to hit the sweet spot in electronic purchasers' buying. I mean, look at how much more expensive UMPC's are. I think they want to own the market as it grows up so that they'll make out like bandits when it grows explosively.

And maybe they're going to produce the N820 for less than the N800 by freezing the webcam a la the N810 (front side only) and doing whatever they did to the N810 when they added a GPS and a keyboard but didn't add any weight. Surely that means some things got consolidated . . .

I argue that one of the precepts of controlling the market is to get way out in front of your competition on the manufacturing learning curve. If you're working on your fourth or fifth generation when your competitor is on its first, you should be way ahead in the knowledge of what it takes to make things cheaper and more reliably.
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Originally Posted by nahkiainen View Post
I think we already know the past.
The point (missed) is that the past is a really good indicator of the future. In this case, we know from past experience that the comments made here about platforming are true-- and likely to remain true for some time. There is no getting around the benefits produced by economies of scale, long tail production, etc. Common sense stuff borne out by solid historical data.
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