I said "full usb support" in my first sentence. I don't think I have to restate completely what I mentioned in the same paragragh because it relates to what I was speaking about. You took it out context. Please read more carefully before attacking someone's comments. Your forgiven.

I'm tired of having to do software and hardware mod's to do what should have been done when it was first brought out. It's crazy. It's like making a phone and not being able to make calls because they didn't think that feature would matter. I buy an internet tablet with a usb I expect to able to use that usb entirely. It's a great product I just want all the features I paid for.

Karel I agree with you on people wanting to get things done. I originally bought it for video and audio and internet on my downtime.
I think Nokia was so far ahead of the curve that they didn't realize what they had in their hands. I honestly didn't know the power of this little monster until Penguinbait's KDE, Fanoush's dual boot, Mara's usb host, Benson's with the mouse, Rob with Ethernet adapter, etc... It's caught me off guard and from the looks of it quite a few others. What I would like to see Nokia do is realize and prioritize what's needed to fix what they missed and at the same time plan for future technology. This way we early adopters don't feel left out and new users benefit right off the bat. Dan

I guess I still kind of don't see your point. We have full USB support in the form of OTG. You plug something in and it works. :shrug:

The tablets started as an exploratory project. The program needed to be "killable" if certain technical capabilities and business milestones could not be reasonably met or proved outright unfeasable. That's as far as I can go with those comments.

Come on Karel. Crustiness aside-- I know you're smart enough to know how these things are done. Take it from here.

My point General is it should have been in there from day one. The support came from the community not Nokia directly. They built it in, they just didn't activate it. Makes sense only in their minds.

Karel is right about users just wanting to get things done. Ex: I would like to see natively on n800 VNC viewer/server and x11vnc. It's ideal for this platform. When my eyes get tired I turn on the VNC/x11vnc and I get my tablet on my big monitor. When I'm on the road I use VNC server to connect to my office computer and control it as though I was there. Another area I would like to see natively is aircrack ng support. I need to keep an eye on our wifi networks. Nokia could probably sell the n800 by the container boat loads to IT administrators if this feature was added and supported. Remote control feature for home devises. Can you amagine the n8xx being used throughtout your day in the following manner. Alarm wakes me at the hotel. I use the remote to turn on hotel tv. Then make a few phone call to clients, then wirelessly or through ethernet at hotel connect to office computer and then connect to home computer. Send out a few emails, video conference on Skype. Then go to our branch offic eand test out their wireless network. Take a lunchbreak to watch a movie. Then during a break download latest Youtube videos. Upload at end of day to my favorite bit-torrent site. At end of day in hotel put some cool music on and read offline some wiki stuff or CIA factbook or have the book read to me. Now I can do most of that now, but it's been a horribly difficult learning experience. Hope this explains my position and what as a user I'm looking for. Now what I truly think is amazing above all that is that Nokia had the wisdom to use open source and support it. One company could not have come up with all this by itself. Dan

Well, they really couldn't have supported it officially for the N800 as OTG is kind of out of spec for MiniUSB (besides the fact that support wasn't finished for OS2007), and the N810 supported OTG out of the box from day one.

I still fail to see your point.

Does your "started" comment imply that the milestones have been met and that more emphasis is being placed on n8x0 SW development internally?

My question to you Texrat is, Does Nokia realize now what they have and are they willing to continue to go the open source route. The reports of bringing in MS and Sprint make me sick because those companies are as far as you can get from open source. We caught both MS and Sprint sending back data they had mined from our systems. Our lawyers quickily put an end to that. To be safe we terminated all hardware and software with them. Did the same with MAC last year. It's crazy what these companies are allowed to do. The NSA can't even do half the stuff these companies do.

I read an interesting article a few weeks ago that phone manufactures were looking to do what Apple did with iphone because Apple makes so much additional revenues from exclusive revenue sharing deals with companies like AT&T in US.
I'm not paranoid I just really like this platform and hate to see it destroyed because of outside partnerships. Dan

lul wut? <_<

In response to the first part, Nokia isn't stupid, they just move a lot more slowly in these things than most open source efforts.

SpartanNTX, I think it does because they bought that software company that helps with KDE development. The team from Canola is funded by Nokia also. I think they are realizing they need more strength in software development. Hopefully they will keep it all open sourced. Dan