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	cashless	2008-04-07 , 05:56
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Originally Posted by vbrilon

<sarcasm> I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the LTE standard (specifically release 8 of UMTS) is not finalized. </sarcasm>

"Dammit Nokia! Hurry up and deliver products to standards that haven't been invented yet. And do it quick. And cheap!"

Did I miss anything?

In my case, I will probably see LTE before I see Wimax.

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fms	2008-04-07 , 06:02
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Originally Posted by F1shb0ne

[url]"Google intends to commit a minimum of $4.6 billion to bidding"

What does it have to do with derailing WiMax though?

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	Bundyo	2008-04-07 , 07:17
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Originally Posted by cashless

In my case, I will probably see LTE before I see Wimax.

You probably won't *see* them at all.

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SD69	2008-04-07 , 08:06
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Originally Posted by acevid

Just seems like the device and it's killer feature (anywhere broadband) and the reality on the ground as far as the network that's supposed to deliver said broadband aren't matching up..yet.

Every consumer has a threshold of what they're willing to gamble their money on (even a consumer that fits the tablet user profile)...I'm not a Sprint or Nokia innvestor..why should I gamble my money on their device and network? It's a honest and reasonable question...

Yes, it's a reasonable question, but it hasn't quite been put to you yet. I suspect it will not be anytime during Q2. Keep in mind that Nokia has said they will sell the 810wme retail only where there is a network.

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	brontide	2008-04-07 , 14:42
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The thing that bugs me about WiMAX is the NIT's have a non trivial list of issues that need work. Here they invest time, money, and marketing into a new feature that will have little to no impact on the current deficiencies or appeal of the device. I'm sure there was some high "muckety-muck" meeting that decided that the NIT's would be a great way to trail blaze on WiMAX and, well, if it didn't pan out it's not like most people would care.

WiMAX is doubly silly since, like it or not, EDGE would have probably maxed out the bus bandwidth of this device and allowed it to interoperate with data networks in almost every country. That would have immediate impact on the community and appeal of the NIT's and solved an issue that many people have with the device.

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	Texrat	2008-04-07 , 14:47
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brontide, I don't think any decision on the platform is going to make you happy at this point.

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	brontide	2008-04-07 , 15:19
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Originally Posted by Texrat

brontide, I don't think any decision on the platform is going to make you happy at this point.

And yet I still try to give positive ( and negative where necessary ) feedback, develop work arounds for crappy defaults, and write scripts to sync data for iTunes and iPhoto. All you seem to do is add one or two line replies or Troll people who are critical of your employer.

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	GeneralAntilles	2008-04-07 , 15:20
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Originally Posted by brontide

The thing that bugs me about WiMAX is the NIT's have a non trivial list of issues that need work.

So they should cease all hardware and software development until your personal list of bugs and issues are fixed? You do realize that the hardware team can't really do anything about software issues, right? And that the software team can still work on other issues while the hardware team is working on a new tablet? (see Diablo for the perfect example of this incredible phenomenon

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Originally Posted by brontide

Here they invest time, money, and marketing into a new feature that will have little to no impact on the current deficiencies or appeal of the device.

To you perhaps, but you're developing a bit of a reputation of an unsatisfiable customer.

WiMAX does appeal to a lot of people, and may very well solve many of their on-the-go data access issues in the short-term, and perhaps all of them in the long.

Originally Posted by brontide

WiMAX is doubly silly since, like it or not, EDGE would have probably maxed out the bus bandwidth of this device and allowed it to interoperate with data networks in almost every country.

EDGE maxed out the 'bus bandwidth'? Which 'bus bandwidth', exactly? EDGE will get you 15KB/sec max, that's certainly not maxing out any 'bus bandwidth' that I know of. EDGE is the past, Nokia is looking towards the future.

Originally Posted by brontide

That would have immediate impact on the community and appeal of the NIT's and solved an issue that many people have with the device.

. . . and turning the device into a cellphone will take a hell of a lot more time and energy away from that "non trivial list of issues" of yours than simple WiMAX compatibility.

Looking back at you laundry list of issues, I can see that most of the issues are either long-term issues (major UI stuff), hardware issues, or currently already actively being worked on (Modest, rtcomm, etc).

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	IcelandDreams	2008-04-07 , 15:35
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Originally Posted by brontide

EDGE would have probably maxed out the bus bandwidth of this device and allowed it to interoperate with data networks in almost every country

Unless you live in Canada.... We need something that isn't tied to *any* cell provider as the entire wireless data industry is totally screwed here. I don't even own a plain cell phone because of what the industry has become up here. We've had great wired access (cheap and fast) for a long time but wireless is probably the worst on this planet or any other.

So WiMAX is just one contender and I welcome the attempt. Not that I'm jumping on the bandwagon. In fact I'd rather see something that is more likely to be a global standard but anything right now can only help to shake up the incumbents.

As for Nokia taking a risk I don't see it as too much of a problem since they can likely replace and rebrand the IT with whatever radio they need. I'm not likely to be the early adopter unless I get a break on the price but I'm keeping my eyes open.

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	Benson	2008-04-07 , 15:38
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

EDGE maxed out the 'bus bandwidth'? Which 'bus bandwidth', exactly? EDGE will get you 15KB/sec max, that's certainly not maxing out any 'bus bandwidth' that I know of. EDGE is the past, Nokia is looking towards the future.

Well, a 115 kb/s serial link, if you integrated the module as I (jokingly) suggested, via the serial console pins. Of course, I'm not even sure what speed that is, 115k is an assumption, but... ya know, it could max out something.