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#31
Originally Posted by ksunday View Post

I've loved the innovation and dedication of the people that have worked on this product but I'm dissappointed that Nokia dumped support so early for it and won't make the effort to fix a pretty vital problem with the core functionality of it in what I'd term its expected useful working life.
Could be the problem is hardware based and thus can't be fixed. Personally I'm still looking for another linux based tablet that isn't made by Nokia. Burnt twice with the WSoD yet Nokia refused to admit to the problem...in my book bad customer service is a reason not to buy from them again, hence the reason I refuse to buy the N800 or 810.
 
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#32
Originally Posted by penthes View Post
FYI the bug report on this has been closed as "WONTFIX"
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2082
Bastards, now my 770 won't connect and is useless too. If I can get my 770 to connect by using a metal mixing bowl as a shield while I squat next to my router [ROLLEYES] I'll use it one last time to purchase a competing mobile internet device. Good riddance.
 
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#33
Originally Posted by bokubob View Post
Some people seem to find a correlation between being near a 802.11n network and no networks appearing. If you have an n-capable accesspoint, you might want to enable b/g mode only and see if that works.

-Jonathan
Jon you hit the nail on the head!
I am new,and got a used 770 from a guy who was so annoyed that the 770 wasn't connecting to all networks ,he sold it to me dirt cheap!
Luckily,here in my house I use 802.11b/g and set to switch from one to the other at will.
Also,many local spots here in Cincy use 802.11b/g/n and it switches.
So I am lucky.
 
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#34
Originally Posted by Ron G View Post
Bastards, now my 770 won't connect and is useless too. If I can get my 770 to connect by using a metal mixing bowl as a shield while I squat next to my router [ROLLEYES] I'll use it one last time to purchase a competing mobile internet device. Good riddance.
Did you read comment # 17 on the Bugzilla thread? It doesn't require squatting or a mixing bowl and it WORKS for me, for the guy who wrote the comment (Burgess) and for others who have tried it. The idea is to shield the 770 BRIEFLY while it searches and while it connects. Once it's connected you should be OK. The shielding is done by holding the tablet's screen against yourself and using your hands to cover as much of the back and sides as you can. Is that so hard?

Here are the steps:

(1) Turn to face towards your router. (It's better if you can see the router's LED's, because then the flashing lights will let you know when the N770 has found the router and when the connection has been made. While you are shielding the Tablet, you can't see its own screen.)

(2) Click on the Tablet's WiFi icon.

(3) IMMEDIATELY hold the Tablet against yourself to shield it from most of the extraneous 2.4 GHz signals while it searches.

(4) When it has had time to search, look at the screen. (Flashing LED's on the router can tell you when to do this, so long as no other computer is communicating with the router at the same time.) Usually the Tablet will have found your own connection and maybe a few others through your covering hands.

(5) QUICKLY, before it starts to search again, click on your own connection or on the "Connect" button and IMMEDIATELY shield the Tablet again. (If it is searching again when you look, you might have to start over.)

(6) Give it time to connect and then hold it as you normally would.

This nearly always works for me. It doesn't work when my wife is using the 2.4 GHz portable phone. Maybe it won't work if you have chatty neighbours. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do about that.

There's another ITT thread on exactly the same topic:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=23759

And here is the Bugzilla thread again:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2082

Last edited by scaler; 2009-04-09 at 14:25. Reason: Added suggestion to watch the router's LED's
 
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#35
LOL seriously this thread is funny as all hell!
Hugging and sheilding with a bowl? Lawrd!
I connect just fine on my 770 at home still. 802.11g and nothing else.
Sometimes I get errors outside the house cause it sees the 802.11n.
I just wait until I pick up a strong 802.11g around Fountainsquare or a park.
Just set your routers to use 802.11b/g and forget it!
802.11n is NOT for the 770. The manual tells you that.
To the guy piggy-backing his neighbors 802.11n and whining...stop and get your own wi-fi and a good Linksy 802.11b/g router for f@cks sake!
Scaler the 2.4 ghz cordless phone isn't doing it.
I have a 5.8ghz by my very 770 now,and it is connected and always does in my bedroom.
I even have a microwave close!
It's 802.11n making it bad for them as always.
Some are overlapping also in their area.
And LOL the fix is listed as 'WONTFIX'. *shakes head*

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#36
Originally Posted by trin20t View Post
And LOL the fix is listed as 'WONTFIX'. *shakes head*
It's not "the fix" listed as WONTFIX, it's the bug report.
And a "fix" in Bugzilla is a patch (that strange text file thingy that contains some characters that look like code to hackers), not a workaround.
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#37
Originally Posted by trin20t View Post
LOL seriously this thread is funny as all hell!

Scaler the 2.4 ghz cordless phone isn't doing it.
Yes it is.

2.4 GHz is the frequency of WiFi. 5.8 GHz phones obviously wouldn't have the same effect.

As soon as my wife turns on the phone to call or answer, the Tablet loses its connection. I can reconnect when she finishes the call, but not before then.

It's nice for you that your neighbours have made their WLAN invisible (or maybe they don't have WLAN). Others aren't so lucky. You don't have a problem to solve, but others do. The shielding works for me and for some other people who have tried it.

There seem to be two different situations which lead to this problem. In some cases, there are too many AP's being picked up. Other times, it's one particular AP (presumed to be a type n) causing the trouble.

I have no trouble after about 10 pm and before 8 am. Only five or six AP's show up, and I can connect without shielding the 770. During the day, the search picks up page after page of AP's at first, then the screen loses them all and the "No Connections Available" message shows up instead. Shielding the 770 gets over the problem - so far, 100% of the time. It's only during the searching and the connecting that the Tablet has to be shielded - a very short time.

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Originally Posted by scaler View Post
Yes it is.

2.4 GHz is the frequency of WiFi. 5.8 GHz phones obviously wouldn't have the same effect.

As soon as my wife turns on the phone to call or answer, the Tablet loses its connection. I can reconnect when she finishes the call, but not before then.

It's nice for you that your neighbours have made their WLAN invisible (or maybe they don't have WLAN). Others aren't so lucky. You don't have a problem to solve, but others do. The shielding works for me and for some other people who have tried it.

There seem to be two different situations which lead to this problem. In some cases, there are too many AP's being picked up. Other times, it's one particular AP (presumed to be a type n) causing the trouble.

I have no trouble after about 10 pm and before 8 am. Only five or six AP's show up, and I can connect without shielding the 770. During the day, the search picks up page after page of AP's at first, then the screen loses them all and the "No Connections Available" message shows up instead. Shielding the 770 gets over the problem - so far, 100% of the time. It's only during the searching and the connecting that the Tablet has to be shielded - a very short time.

Hmm interesting.
Never thought a phone could do that.
Maybe your wife should invest in a 5.8 ghz model? IDK.

Yes,my neighbors can't aford Wi-Fi.
Barely can afford the internet period!
I live in the 'hood. I'm the only one with Wi-Fi. Hopefully they won't figure it out and break in.

Well,if I do get some problems when I move,I can try this method.
 
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#39
Originally Posted by Andre Klapper View Post
It's not "the fix" listed as WONTFIX, it's the bug report.
And a "fix" in Bugzilla is a patch (that strange text file thingy that contains some characters that look like code to hackers), not a workaround.
Thanks for informing me this.
I am still new to all of this still,after two months. I'm still a newb.
 
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#40
I jumped ship and got an iPhone in the end. It does everything I want day-to-day and the interface gives you so much satisfaction (everything works, it's responsive and looks nice). Plus my old iPod was broken.

Still, my parents decided to go for an N810 to take travelling with them on my recommendation. I still think the tablets take some beating as travel devices, but the N770 experience put me off Nokia products for domestic use because they ditched support far too soon.

I'm still not sure if Nokia knows what its target market is for these devices are. Here's my take:

Internet tablet = travel gadget

1) Skype
2) Internet browsing (for banking, emails, blogging, flickring etc)
3) E-book reading
4) Hub (connecting digital camera to in order to transfer pictures onto USB HD)
5) Videos & Picture viewing (from Digital Camera)
6) Bluetooth send/receive (sharing on the go)
7) Games (SCUMMVM etc)
8) Sat Nav
9) Music

*This is in my order of preference.

Unfortunately Nokia doesn't seem to know what they have. Ummm, it's an Internet Tablet - does that actually mean anything to non-techs?

The above features "should" make the IT marketable...people would know its strengths and Nokia could concentrate on making it do the above as well as possible (and without using the words form-factor, although size is key).
 
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