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2008-09-01 , 14:13
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700€ is a bit much for me...

oh and "Windows Ubuntu 7"? never heard of it

still, nice to know they are moving forward with that design. they just need to really do something about that price...
 
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Was the Wifi also built in? (not on an SDIO card, whose slot is the only SD slot on board?)

Sounds rather promising. Was the screen bigger than the NIT, or same/similar size?

Did they say anything about a US version, and if so whether it'd be AT&T only? (or support for T-Mobile-USA?)

Will the linux version support bluetooth (I was annoyed that their first model's linux version had no bluetooth).

Trying to remember how much 700€ converts to in US$ ...

As long as it's under $1000, I could probably be on board with a fully supported Ubuntu version. If only it had a tilt screen ;-)
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2008-09-01 , 15:53
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700€ is a bit much for me...

oh and "Windows Ubuntu 7"? never heard of it

still, nice to know they are moving forward with that design. they just need to really do something about that price...
You can choose between Windows XP and Ubuntu 7.x (not specified further). And they said "about $1000", docking station included. The design is really good and better than the pictures might suggest. The black version has a true business look.
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Was the Wifi also built in? (not on an SDIO card, whose slot is the only SD slot on board?)
Yes, built in. Slot was empty.
Sounds rather promising. Was the screen bigger than the NIT, or same/similar size?
Bigger (I put it side by side with my N800, in particular wider), 10.3x6.3 cm with 1024x600 pixels. Also it is much much brighter.
Did they say anything about a US version, and if so whether it'd be AT&T only? (or support for T-Mobile-USA?)
Sorry, no. I have not asked but next time (tomorrow) I'll try
Will the linux version support bluetooth (I was annoyed that their first model's linux version had no bluetooth).
I have asked in general only whether the Linux version has all neccessary drivers and the answer was Yes. Tomorrow I'll try to insist...
Trying to remember how much 700€ converts to in US$ ...
They said about $1000. then I tried to remember how much Euros this is
As long as it's under $1000, I could probably be on board with a fully supported Ubuntu version. If only it had a tilt screen ;-)
Even without tilt screen the handling is very convenient and ergonomic. I was really surprised and recommend to take the unit into your own hands to check this (as soon as you can...).
 
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Yes, built in. Slot was empty. Bigger (I put it side by side with my N800, in particular wider), 10.3x6.3 cm with 1024x600 pixels. Also it is much much brighter.
Hmm... 10.3cm/1024px ~= 0.1mm DP = 254 DPI. Larger screen, higher pixel count, and higher resolution.

This is looking quite nice. A T-mo US version would be to die for, once they get 3G out here. (Of course, there's not likely to be one available before then, anyway.) For me, a k$ is a bit much right now, but I could be sold one of these (in some US band) if it's as awesome as it sounds. At the right price, I could buy one without any data access, but I don't think that's at all likely.
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I was really surprised and recommend to take the unit into your own hands to check this (as soon as you can...).
Thanks for the great info!

And, I'm sure I will, as soon as I can.
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A T-mo US version would be to die for, once they get 3G out here. (Of course, there's not likely to be one available before then, anyway.)
I agree.

For me, a k$ is a bit much right now, but I could be sold one of these (in some US band) if it's as awesome as it sounds.
Yeah, $1000 is my upper range of "I can do it, with a little planning".

More than $1500, and I start to think "so I really need a mobile device that's that expensive?" and/or "wonder if I can get work to buy it for me?"


At the right price, I could buy one without any data access, but I don't think that's at all likely.
I was thinking maybe:

If T-Mo US gets an E71 with T-Mo 3G and UMA/Hotspot@Home, then use joikuspot to tether it to the M1 (or whatever wifi MID I end up with).

Though, I could also do something sneaky like:

If the M1's wifi can act as a wifi hotspot, and it only supports AT&T, then put the M1 on an AT&T pre-paid SIM with the $20/30days MediaNet service, and use it as a wifi access point for my E61i (which I use with T-Mo now).

Then I can decide what to do with my T-Mo data service (drop it, or reduce it to the $6/mo web-only service, or keep both and use whichever one is more stable at any given location ... or in case AT&T ever catches on to people using their $20/30days prepaid add on as an unlimited data-only service).
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Today at IFA I played again with the new Atom based Wibrain model. It's a shame but I missed the title of this thread in my posts so far - what I touched at IFA these days was the new model i1, not M1, sorry.

@johnkzin:
Today the Wibrain people I've met confirmed that bluetooth (Blue Soleil) will definitely be supported in the Ubuntu version. They also corrected the Ubuntu version to 8.x.

BTW the spec sheet says Tri-band UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900/2100 MHz and Quad-band GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz.
 
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Heh. I think I like the M1 a bit better, but they're both quite interesting little machines. (That switch-up explains why it was "in particular wider" than the N800.) It looks likely that they have the same screen, though.
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Today at IFA I played again with the new Atom based Wibrain model. It's a shame but I missed the title of this thread in my posts so far - what I touched at IFA these days was the new model i1, not M1, sorry.
Still, good news. I liked their original design, mostly, as well (the split thumb keyboard based brick). I mean, it's not pretty, but it looked quite functional, and I care more about functional than pretty. (I think that's the basis of the "love it or hate it" aspect of their original design -- if you're hung up on aesthetics, you'll hate it, but if you care more about ergonomics of the keyboard, etc., I expect you'll find it to be interesting at least).

@johnkzin:
Today the Wibrain people I've met confirmed that bluetooth (Blue Soleil) will definitely be supported in the Ubuntu version. They also corrected the Ubuntu version to 8.x.
Oooh! ... good news, thanks!


BTW the spec sheet says Tri-band UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900/2100 MHz and Quad-band GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz.
That would mean ... "North American 3G" (which for some odd reason is a moniker that doesn't include T-Mobile's USA 3G bands), but I'm not sure what the 2100MHz is there for ... European is 900/2100 isn't it? Or do they only need 2100, and 900 is optional? Could mean Austrialia (one of the carriers there does 850/2100 and the other does 900/2100, I think).

Anyway, for the US, they're going to be ready for AT&T but not T-Mobile. Which is ok, but not ideal.


Thanks for the info!
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