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2009-09-03
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Originally Posted by mrojas
I seem to remember Quim starting the meme here in the old threads. I could be wrong though.
As far as I remember, it wasn't a video, but an interview, I think with OPK or some vice president. Check around Mobile Review.
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2009-09-03
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Exactly. I remember seeing that video but I can't recall where. But basically is the story he repeated in the keynote yesterday.
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2009-09-03
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The real world is a very dynamic place where all plans are subject to change. These multi-year roadmaps are never going to be as fixed as some people might like to assume, and a good planner will always leave room to make radical changes as needed. It's only fiction that has rigid multiyear plans which actually work.
For example no one was expecting the Nokia 5800 to do as well as it did, I think Nokia's official prediction was 1 million units for the first quarter but it actually sold over 3 million. That probably had consequences for their Symbian planning and it's interesting that a year later we see four similar devices all on the way (5530, 5230, 5800 navigation, X6).
I would suspect the N97 will sell worse than expected because it's going to be wiped out by the N900 (almost same price but much better hardware) and the 5800 (almost same hardware but half the price) so that too would affect Nokia's plans.
I'm sure the sales of the N900 will have similar level of influence over Maemo's future, whether they're good or bad.
For example no one was expecting the Nokia 5800 to do as well as it did, I think Nokia's official prediction was 1 million units for the first quarter but it actually sold over 3 million. That probably had consequences for their Symbian planning and it's interesting that a year later we see four similar devices all on the way (5530, 5230, 5800 navigation, X6).
I would suspect the N97 will sell worse than expected because it's going to be wiped out by the N900 (almost same price but much better hardware) and the 5800 (almost same hardware but half the price) so that too would affect Nokia's plans.
I'm sure the sales of the N900 will have similar level of influence over Maemo's future, whether they're good or bad.
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2009-09-04
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I cant find his speech anywhere. He evidently puts many things in steps of 5, though, from reading his past stuff.
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2009-09-04
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The speech is incredibly difficult to find. Last time I dug it up, there were maybe 2 hits on Google using the terms I did. Sorry I can't recall them.
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2009-09-04
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Right, since I was at Nokia World '09, here's what (from memory) I heard OPK say in the day one keynote:
However, I'm with Quim (roughly). The detail of any 5-step plan they had in 2005 has been upturned by the iPhone - and more recently Android and webOS. Yes, the N900 is not asmartphone "mobile computer" than my mum would use - but in the technically capable, non-geek, gadget-loving subset of the mainstream it's a viable competitor to Android and webOS - and may even pick up some wannabe iPhone users.
Originally Posted by OPK
So, watch the video of OPK's keynote at Nokia World '09 and listen for the reference to the event where he talked about the five-step plan.Many of you here will have been at Nokia World[?] in 2005[?] when we first showed the seven-seven-zero. I described then that this was the first step in a five-step plan to the mainstream. Well, the N900 is the first Maemo device with cellular capability in it - a true mobile computer. This is step 4. [....]
However, I'm with Quim (roughly). The detail of any 5-step plan they had in 2005 has been upturned by the iPhone - and more recently Android and webOS. Yes, the N900 is not a
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Originally Posted by krisse
I was really suprised to see N97 selling 2 million units already, thought one big reason must be marketing for this device. Making the N97 seem like THE Nokia touch screen and the one to battle iphone and other TS phones.
I would suspect the N97 will sell worse than expected because it's going to be wiped out by the N900 (almost same price but much better hardware) and the 5800 (almost same hardware but half the price) so that too would affect Nokia's plans.
I'm sure the sales of the N900 will have similar level of influence over Maemo's future, whether they're good or bad.
I really hope Nokia puts time marketing the N900. Because if any Nokia product, this needs it. There's so much new and weird for the normal Nokia smartphone buyer and for those who have not gone for Nokia's smartphones before.
Nokia: networks may reject N900
http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/News/...ject_n900.html
Originally Posted by mobilenews
Nokia executive vice president Kari Tuutti told Mobile News the N900 user interface cannot be customised to include network applications, which will be a bone of contention with the networks. As a result, Nokia may find it difficult to form network partnerships for the internet tablet, Tuutti said.
Originally Posted by mobilenews
Vanjoki said, although the N900 is "great product", further innovation is still to come to create a fifth evolution in internet tablet devices.
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2009-09-04
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Actually I'll quibble with Kari Tuutti's assertion. I'll bet the network customization could conceivably be done with Maemo-- just that it would violate the spirit of the premise so it won't be done.
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Edit: Just to clarify, the first mention of the 5 steps was not in this Nokia World 09, comes from way before. I remember there was a doubt that since Nokia went from Diablo to Fremantle (skipping Elephanta, actually integrating Elephanta features in Fremantle), then if Fremantle could be considered 4th or 5th.
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