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2008-11-06
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Yes, whenever I hear people talking about greed, I want to say "what, you are going to repeal Original Sin?" We know people are greedy and have other flaws. That's why we build systems to make people better. We punish them for being criminals. We reward them for getting an education.
This is because without those societal inputs, they will not be as good, which will hurt all of us. And this is why freedom is not the answer to everything. Freedom plus control is the answer that every economy on the face of the earth has adopted, because it's the only thing that works. Some people call freedom anarchy, and some people call control socialism. They are both wrong.
This is because without those societal inputs, they will not be as good, which will hurt all of us. And this is why freedom is not the answer to everything. Freedom plus control is the answer that every economy on the face of the earth has adopted, because it's the only thing that works. Some people call freedom anarchy, and some people call control socialism. They are both wrong.
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2008-11-06
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more like freedom with responsibility.
lately its been to easy for a lawyer or something to say a person was not responsible for some action(s), its was some kind of drug (i include alcohol in that one), mental issues, (willful) ignorance or some other thing that made the offender do it.
end result, a legal slap on the wrist and a trip to some low security medical facility, where the person can up and walk out whenever one feels like it.
lately its been to easy for a lawyer or something to say a person was not responsible for some action(s), its was some kind of drug (i include alcohol in that one), mental issues, (willful) ignorance or some other thing that made the offender do it.
end result, a legal slap on the wrist and a trip to some low security medical facility, where the person can up and walk out whenever one feels like it.
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2008-11-06
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I take some comfort in knowing this is cyclical.
What our xxAngryYoungManxx poster doesn't get is that society reacts against what it perceives as extremism Up Top. If the leadership and general political environment are seen as too soft (caring, generous, forgiving, etc) then we tend to vote in hard-liners to correct that. If on the other hand they are viewed as too hard-lined, then we will send up bleeding hearts to restore the missing compassion.
A crying shame the voices of the centrists are lost in this back-and-forth tsunami process... and that it occasionally requires revolution (a la 1960s-1970s in the US) to force one extreme to move aside when their time is up.
What our xxAngryYoungManxx poster doesn't get is that society reacts against what it perceives as extremism Up Top. If the leadership and general political environment are seen as too soft (caring, generous, forgiving, etc) then we tend to vote in hard-liners to correct that. If on the other hand they are viewed as too hard-lined, then we will send up bleeding hearts to restore the missing compassion.
A crying shame the voices of the centrists are lost in this back-and-forth tsunami process... and that it occasionally requires revolution (a la 1960s-1970s in the US) to force one extreme to move aside when their time is up.
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2008-11-06
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@ Leeds UK
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Think people should just remember the reason for all this ****.
Those complete Bankers not caring about anything other than their bottom line.
Only this time they've been sillier than usual!
Those complete Bankers not caring about anything other than their bottom line.
Only this time they've been sillier than usual!
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Life on the edge....always waiting to fall
Life on the edge....always waiting to fall
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2008-11-06
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@ Netherlands
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The efforts of a person who bring balance are well appreciated by someone who has some extreme views.
I don't call 'copyright' or 'patent' free market, BTW.
Besides that, there are big differences between Ron Paul and John McCain. The Republicans of today are totally different from those of 80 or 100 years ago. Leo Strauss.
Originally Posted by deadmalc
The government gave them this power.
Think people should just remember the reason for all this ****.
Those complete Bankers not caring about anything other than their bottom line.
Only this time they've been sillier than usual!
I don't call 'copyright' or 'patent' free market, BTW.
Besides that, there are big differences between Ron Paul and John McCain. The Republicans of today are totally different from those of 80 or 100 years ago. Leo Strauss.
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2008-11-06
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Originally Posted by qole
Actually, these kinds of workforce adjustments are de rigeur for Nokia. There's not a high percentage of people who have been there for even 5 years. They are a bit of an oxy***** - a high tech company that is fiscally conservative. It works for them, but the periodic change of personnel is not pleasant to work with.
I'm constantly surprised that a Big Company like Nokia, with its Big Company Strategies like company-wide layoffs (what a lazy way to manage your human resources! Especially if your workforce is essentially "stable"!), was not only able to produce a revolutionary technology like the tablets, but somehow not kill the whole project at one of many stages along the way... and then go on to hire guys like Quim and embrace such a radical open source strategy... It's all so out of character.
It's like a boring accountant type taking off his pinstripe suit, putting on oily jeans and an "I heart Linux" T-Shirt and building a flying car in his garage. What the heck?!
Is it because Nokia is from the Land of Linux? (Does Finland have a statue of Torvalds yet? Or is it in constant development, with guys all over the world working on it in their spare time?)
And Nokia did manage to kill off the 7710 touchscreen project four years ago - an absolutely dreadful decision. They had the iPhone market in their hands and pissed it away. Maybe the product manager was a victim of one of these events.
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2008-11-06
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Originally Posted by tso
To me, there's only one explanation for this:
i cant help but think about greenspan, and his admission that economic theory was flawed. they didnt take greed into account at a strong enough level.
Either,
A) Greenspan is dumb
or
B) Greenspan is a lying a*shole
Not some of both and A is false.
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2008-11-06
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
I have never seen that to be true.
The efforts of a person who bring balance are well appreciated by someone who has some extreme views.
Extremists tend to think they aren't... and they are threatened by anyone who doesn't think like them.
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2008-11-06
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Originally Posted by deadmalc
And there's me thinking all this time the bankers being ordered by the socialists to accept bad loans was the cause.
Think people should just remember the reason for all this ****.
Those complete Bankers not caring about anything other than their bottom line.
Only this time they've been sillier than usual!
How wrong can you be, eh?
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
Then fire the less effective ones.
The problem is that neither of these methods is working reliably.
Technically, there are three determinate states the cat could be in: Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.