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2009-02-21 , 23:14
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/bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/dash and this is quite annoying for chroot. I expect eventually you'll be pointing it to busybox, but until then, pointing it to bash would be the nicest.
No, it would slow down immensely, as described on the linked page. We don't intend to switch to busybox as busybox is the root of all application incompatibilities on Maemo..

It would be nice to have the libgtkstylus package installed by default. This lets you do tap-and-hold right-click on GTK apps.
Well, we have Maemo GTK - so there is different tap and hold handling. However, we could consider LD_PRELOADing libgtkstylus to non-Hildon applications? That'd be interesting.

[*]The wmctrl and matchbox-keyboard packages are also nice to have, to help tame the non-hildonized apps. You might even want to include the hardware key hack and custom matchbox keyboards in Easy
Debian to further bridge the gap.

Just some small requests; I can do it myself, but it would be helpful to have them in place by default in 0.9...
Well, Mer is really not intended for chroot use, but so it is .. wmctrl and matchbox-keyboard probably exists in ubuntu repository for fetching. You're more than welcome to help out, we need a better environment for non-Hildon apps.
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No, it would slow down immensely, as described on the linked page. We don't intend to switch to busybox as busybox is the root of all application incompatibilities on Maemo..
(shrug) Ok.

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Well, we have Maemo GTK - so there is different tap and hold handling. However, we could consider LD_PRELOADing libgtkstylus to non-Hildon applications? That'd be interesting.
Yes, I was referring to making non-hildon apps more stylus-friendly.

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You're more than welcome to help out...
I thought that's what I was doing. Sorry if it seemed otherwise...
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(shrug) Ok.

Yes, I was referring to making non-hildon apps more stylus-friendly.

I thought that's what I was doing. Sorry if it seemed otherwise...
Yeah, you are - sorry if I come off a bit harsh online - wmctrl will probably be in 0.8 cos of powerlaunch and we do need people to look on cheap and easy tricks to make non-hildon apps work nicely in a hildon UI. Alone the new theme for menu bars in Mer helps immensely.
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Some of you may be interested in my notes for setting up a Mer 0.8 chroot.

My Blog Post.
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#35
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We don't intend to switch to busybox as busybox is the root of all application incompatibilities on Maemo..
Interestingly, according to the Fremantle wiki page, Nokia is planning to continue using Busybox; they've opened up development of it, too. There's a Maemo Busybox garage project page as of Feb 17th...

The fact that Maemo will continue to use Busybox shouldn't impact Mer's Maemo compatibility negatively, right?
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Interestingly, according to the Fremantle wiki page, Nokia is planning to continue using Busybox; they've opened up development of it, too. There's a Maemo Busybox garage project page as of Feb 17th...

The fact that Maemo will continue to use Busybox shouldn't impact Mer's Maemo compatibility negatively, right?
Correct - if they avoid bashisms in their scripts And yes, Nokia will continue to use Busybox (multiple reasons for this) - Mer is doing it differently as we are trying to align closer to mainstream Linux as we see big advantages in this and Nokia is doing the same with opening Busybox (but I wonder if it will just turn into another bash.)
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Hi everybody!

I'm trying to figure out which kernel to use with Mer 0.8 on a 770. Looks like kernel used in OS2008HE is 2.6.16.27-omap1 and doesn't support SDHC so it can't use my MMC. It seems to work with fanoush's kernel but I was wondering if there was a better one out there based on 2.6.28-omap1 kernel. Which kernel to use? Do I have to compile it myself or it is available somewhere.

Sorry if the question seems dumb and thanks for helping me out.

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Hi everybody!

I'm trying to figure out which kernel to use with Mer 0.8 on a 770. Looks like kernel used in OS2008HE is 2.6.16.27-omap1 and doesn't support SDHC so it can't use my MMC. It seems to work with fanoush's kernel but I was wondering if there was a better one out there based on 2.6.28-omap1 kernel. Which kernel to use? Do I have to compile it myself or it is available somewhere.

Sorry if the question seems dumb and thanks for helping me out.

pancho
I'd personally use the new Mer 0.9 release which just came out, and use fanoush's SDHC kernel.
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Just a link to the Mer 0.9 thread...
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I'd personally use the new Mer 0.9 release which just came out, and use fanoush's SDHC kernel.
Sorry for posting so fast. I just found the new Mer 0.9 with the information released today.

You will need at least a 1gb MMC, and these instructions are based on OS2008HE kernel. 48mhz kernel is highly recommended
I'll let you know about the rest.
Thanks for the incredibly quick reply!

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