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	qgil	2009-03-11 , 23:59
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Perhaps Competitors would go better as the last option in Devices? Almost all the threads there are related to hardware and the 'competing' software is mostly the one discussed in Alternatives.

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	qole	2009-03-12 , 00:15
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Originally Posted by qgil

Perhaps Competitors would go better as the last option in Devices? Almost all the threads there are related to hardware and the 'competing' software is mostly the one discussed in Alternatives.

Threads about competitors could mostly fit under the new "Whines, Rants and Trolls" category.

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SD69	2009-03-12 , 00:31
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Originally Posted by qgil

Right now:

- Nokia N800 (27 Viewing)
3,036 threads (120 updated this year) & 27,623 posts

- Alternatives (13 Viewing) in total
368 threads (15 updated this year) & 8107 posts

Android 28 threads (10 updated this year) & 1.183 posts
Debian 70 (16) & 2976
KDE 135 (7) & 2015
Palm OS 110 (11) & 1295

And btw searching for "Mer" in titles gives 10 results. Not very scientific but should give an idea. So perhaps it's not worth to start with a Mer subforum either.

And promote subforums only when it's clear that a topic has enough traffic to deserve it. This is how forums use to grow organically.

Good point. I like numbers. Mer wasn't really a topic on January 1st. If you look at the last month only, Mer might warrant a sub-forum (or not).

Also, I suspect that the largest number of updated threads are in the "General" forum, but that many of them should properly be in one of the other forums. I think putting it first invites this.

I would suggest getting rid of the miscellaneous folder entirely, moving competitors to devices, moving Buy & Sell and Off-Topic to Talk folder, and put Comment/Suggest someplace unigue where it clearly conveys that it is meant for comments/suggestions relating to the forum or maemo.org.

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	YoDude	2009-03-12 , 02:21
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Originally Posted by qgil

...And promote subforums only when it's clear that a topic has enough traffic to deserve it. This is how forums use to grow organically.

Well put...

The only input that I have is to reinforce that notion of allowing the site to grow "organically" or evolve naturally as traffic dictates. It is an excellent idea to have a blueprint of when and how forums and sub-forums will be added, it is also important (IMHO) not to add those forums until conditions warrant it.

User/members may feel a greater sense of ownership or community as they experience forum growth first hand. IMHO, it is this sense of community that leads to increased participation.

Last edited by YoDude; 2009-03-12 at 02:24.

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	qgil	2009-03-12 , 05:24
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I think organic growth is mostly related to real and continuous pressure mora than in written rules, that might or might not reflect that pressure. For instance, if the Mer contributors and fanboys are determined to get that forum they will find the reasoning and arguments to get it... Unless a stronger voice from the rest of the community thnks otherwise.

But feel free coming up with a blueprint for creating new forums.

Getting rid of Misc is a good idea. I edited the first post taking your ideas and a couple more that came in the way.

Last edited by qgil; 2009-03-12 at 05:27.

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	sachin007	2009-03-12 , 05:33
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Originally Posted by qgil

Some thoughts about the integration of ITt with maemo.org as a frequent user of both sites:

- Software precedes hardware.
- It's good to differentiate between platform, official apps and 3rd party apps.
- The best threads should become news @ http://maemo.org/news

Following these principles, here is a proposal to reorganize the forums:

Talk
- General
- Newbie
- maemo.org (community related, Council, website including Talk)
- Off-topic

Applications
- Pre-installed / official
- Community / 3rd party (maybe worth splitting one day between community and commercial?)
--- Sub-forums: Canola, Gaming

OS / Platform
- Maemo 5 / Fremantle
- OS2008 / Maemo 4 / Chinook - Diablo
- OS2006 / Maemo 2 / Mistral - Scirocco - Gregale
- Developers (moving to own section if the topics grow and specialized areas are needed)
- Alternatives (merging Sub-Forums: Android, Debian, KDE, Palm OS)

Devices
- Nokia N810 & WiMAX Edition
- Nokia N800
- Nokia 770
- Accessories
- Competitors
- Buy & Sell (merging Deals & Promos)

Old (these ones don't accept new posts, threads with new comments might be moved to the right forums)
- News
- Announcements
- Troubleshooting
- Upgrading
- Tablet 101
- OS2007 / Maemo 3 / Bora
- OS2005 / Maemo 1

Nice idea.
How are the best threads selected?

Rating
No. of posts
No. of thanks

And where is reggie? One would expect him to give his expert opinion in this topic.
Anyone know wats up with him?

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SD69	2009-03-12 , 12:03
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Originally Posted by SD69

Also, I suspect that the largest number of updated threads are in the "General" forum, but that many of them should properly be in one of the other forums. I think putting it first invites this.

And another thought, maybe "General" should be changed to "Experienced" or similar to give better juxtaposition against "Newbie" and assist in better categorization of threads.

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	eiffel	2009-03-12 , 12:35
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I'm a "keep-it-simple-and-low-maintenance" person. How about:

Help and troubleshooting
Buy and sell
On-topic discussions (Nokia tablets, Maemo OS, Maemo apps)
Off-topic discussions (competitors, rants, chit-chat)

Anything more complicated risks causing stress when people post in the "wrong" place.

Regards,
Roger

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	Jaffa	2009-03-12 , 12:46
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Originally Posted by sachin007

And where is reggie? One would expect him to give his expert opinion in this topic.
Anyone know wats up with him?

He's busy at the moment, but is being kept in the loop.

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	GeneralAntilles	2009-03-12 , 12:53
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Originally Posted by SD69

And another thought, maybe "General" should be changed to "Experienced" or similar to give better juxtaposition against "Newbie" and assist in better categorization of threads.

I'm in favor of keeping it "General", personally (and not for any self-centered reasons