Thanks for fighting for a darker theme. You'll get my vote for council if you do run. I would ask to borrow your avatar, but have thought better of it.

Couple of things that have bothered me about this whole fiasco:

1) GA started a thread about changing member levels then started a poll to pass the results to Reggie. Nobody jumped in suggesting he was complaining (despite a fair amount of people wanting to vote for no change if it had been an option). Now when there is a fair amount of support for a dark theme, there seem to be quite a few shut up and quite *****ing responses.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...=member+levels

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...+levels&page=6

2) I see a lot of comments about how this is all driven by maemo.org (specifically members of maemo.org) and basically an attitude of "if you can't be bothered to keep track of x amount of info sources and only hung on ITT then your opinion doesn't count. What I see is despite some threads in the forum only 160 (per benny1967, post 16) people voted for council last time. That doesn't speak highly of the ease of voting (had to be a member of maemo.org, not very together if you ask me) or any kind of mandate over members of ITT (who far outnumber the members of maemo.org). I think I would have been able to vote, and was planning on it, but had no idea until the poll came out that I had to be a member of maemo.org or that the vote had happened

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...munity+council

Anyway there are too many thread floating around now for me to jump in and ask this for fear of being "off-topic" As I'm still rather new, I suspect my opinion wouldn't carry much weight anyway. Feel free to use this or not, if you want you can even quote me.

PS Thanks for all your work on clone to sd and console tools.

Len

Originally Posted by Reggie

Man, I don't think some will ever get it. It's a shame that all this disagreement will just take toll on the community. It's not a matter of just reactivating an old theme, nor just get a pre-built theme off the shelf. It's all about our image as a community! What kind of message are we going to give the future members with a disjoint theme and all this bickering. More on my other post.

Oh, there's another reason:

Originally Posted by YoDude

Many of us are are here initially because of the disorganization we encountered when we first visited the other available sites like Tableteer (no updates) Maemo.org (770 centric and in general disrepair) Nokia (releasing upgrades that broke existing apps and then going on vacation for 2 weeks or the repository fiasco prior to another 2 week holiday).
During it all this was a place that was always open and where you could find other users with either a solution to your problems or a willingness to work together toward a common goal.
As a result the community YOU provided a home to grew and florished and realy didn't need that much intervention. As a group we learned or were learning to get along
Many of us now see this as a takeover by the very (lack of) organization that was responsible for driving us here in the first place.

I suspect that the theme issue is not as big as the post and thread count may indicate but rather alot of this noise is a result of misplaced frustration over how this change has been handled.

We who are in a very large majority are basicly being told that we now belong to a community who's fate direction and mission have already been discussed and determined by a smaller group of people who belong to various mailing lists. We chose not to join these mailing lists and as a result we must now play whatever hand that is dealt.

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If this is the communities forum; what's going on here and here ?

Originally Posted by YoDude

Many of us are are here initially because of the disorganization we encountered when we first visited the other available sites like Tableteer (no updates) Maemo.org (770 centric and in general disrepair) Nokia (releasing upgrades that broke existing apps and then going on vacation for 2 weeks or the repository fiasco prior to another 2 week holiday).
During it all this was a place that was always open and where you could find other users with either a solution to your problems or a willingness to work together toward a common goal.
As a result the community YOU provided a home to grew and florished and realy didn't need that much intervention. As a group we learned or were learning to get along
Many of us now see this as a takeover by the very (lack of) organization that was responsible for driving us here in the first place.

I suspect that the theme issue is not as big as the post and thread count may indicate but rather alot of this noise is a result of misplaced frustration over how this change has been handled.

We who are in a very large majority are basicly being told that we now belong to a community who's fate direction and mission have already been discussed and determined by a smaller group of people who belong to various mailing lists. We chose not to join these mailing lists and as a result we must now play whatever hand that is dealt.


Yeeesh, somehow it seems to me that its like asking... "Will any member who can't see this post indicate so by saying "aye"."

Originally Posted by st5150

Well put! On top of everything you said, it's a shame so much time and effort was spent turning this great medium of communication into an unsuable eye sore.

Originally Posted by YoDude

Many of us now see this as a takeover by the very (lack of) organization that was responsible for driving us here in the first place.

I suspect that the theme issue is not as big as the post and thread count may indicate but rather alot of this noise is a result of misplaced frustration over how this change has been handled.

Originally Posted by luca

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: I find the new them more useable and much more easy to read than the previous default (in fact I selected another theme before the upgrade).