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2009-07-10
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Ah... questions related to Nokia / community interaction.
Never mind then.
I had a technical question regarding voice recognition. With smart phones allowing people to do more and more tasks away from their desktop, more people will eventually be doing these things at inappropriate times. While driving for instance.
Many local governments are moving toward enacting laws prohibiting manual text entry while driving. It seems to me robust VR built into the OS of a mobile device will be the next big thing.
Where does VR fit into the Maemo road map?
How could the community help promote VR's value?
(See how I did that^ )
Never mind then.
I had a technical question regarding voice recognition. With smart phones allowing people to do more and more tasks away from their desktop, more people will eventually be doing these things at inappropriate times. While driving for instance.
Many local governments are moving toward enacting laws prohibiting manual text entry while driving. It seems to me robust VR built into the OS of a mobile device will be the next big thing.
Where does VR fit into the Maemo road map?
How could the community help promote VR's value?
(See how I did that^
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2009-07-11
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Originally Posted by qole
Thanks, just make it clear that this is not a request for opening up any components that are not already open, but for enabling the community to publish its own unofficial updates.
I think I will ask something along the lines of, "Would Nokia consider giving end-of-life versions of Maemo to the community to maintain? Or does Nokia expect the community to exclusively use parallel versions of Maemo, like Mer, if they wish to take control after Nokia ends support?"
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2009-07-11
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Originally Posted by lma
We already have that deal with Mer -and- for community editions of Diablo etc. Nokia has no problem distributing Nokia-closed software to Nokia tablets (qgil posted this somewhere). It's just a tough task to set up, get all stakeholders involved, etc. Heck, we're still in progress with Mer to do this.
Thanks, just make it clear that this is not a request for opening up any components that are not already open, but for enabling the community to publish its own unofficial updates.
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2009-07-12
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Originally Posted by qole
As Stskeeps says, Nokia have expressed interest in allowing us to do this at a management level; and have explained the technical approach we'd take:
"Would Nokia consider giving end-of-life versions of Maemo to the community to maintain? Or does Nokia expect the community to exclusively use parallel versions of Maemo, like Mer, if they wish to take control after Nokia ends support?"
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...il/018816.html
Basically, the plan is as follows - and anyone in the community can help with this:
- Community: develop "opt-in" package which promotes a "community-updates" component in Extras to SSU-status when installed.
- maemo.org: add "community-updates" component to Extras.
- Community: build new hildon-application-manager and osso-software-version-rx* packages. Upload to community-updates.
- Community: install opt-in package and test upgrades.
- Nokia: ship final SSU which includes the opt-in package, giving all users the community updates without having to opt-in.
Given this concrete plan has evolved over the past few weeks, this is now in a position to be actually enacted. I'd like to see some extra volunteers on this (promotion, packaging, testing) rather than "the usual suspects": this is a perfect opportunity to get involved at a high-level in the Maemo community quickly, without lots of technical skill necessary.
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2009-07-12
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
If I may, I'd like to be involved. I have built versions of h-a-m using community patches before and I have packaged a clone of Nokia's "maemo-extras-domain" package for Mer (extras-repository) when it was thought that adding Extras would be a good thing.
I'd like to see some extra volunteers on this (promotion, packaging, testing) rather than "the usual suspects": this is a perfect opportunity to get involved at a high-level in the Maemo community quickly, without lots of technical skill necessary.
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2009-07-12
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
Step 5 isn't an absolute requirement, but one thing that is necessary is an official "there will be no more Diablo SSUs" statement from Nokia. Imagine the mess if the community goes ahead with the plan, publishes a few updates and a few weeks down the line there is another Nokia SSU.
Basically, the plan is as follows - and anyone in the community can help with this:
Given this concrete plan has evolved over the past few weeks, this is now in a position to be actually enacted. I'd like to see some extra volunteers on this (promotion, packaging, testing) rather than "the usual suspects"
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2009-08-12
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My question: "The community is in desperate desire for some sort of development/release roadmap for Maemo hardware and software. We understand that Nokia cannot be completely forthcoming due to competitive needs, but can't at least some degree of rough guidance be provided?"
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2009-08-12
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Thanks Texrat, both for your question and for bumping this thread. Only a couple more weeks before the deadline. I'm going to send my rough set of questions to Ari in early September...
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2009-08-12
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Hey, I owe you for jogging me toward including the hottest topic for my proposed presentation. 
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But we can agree to disagree - let's allow Nokia to continue to trot out their "consumer device" excuse while making the most of open source code when at the same time making a complete hash of the supposedly open development process which will only serve to alienate the community they so desperately need if this product/project is going to succeed in the long term, which is by no means certain.
Intel and others will continue to show how commercial open source development can be done right, and will gain a much larger and devoted community as a result.