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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by YoDude
Ask yourself this:
Can I ask what you use MMS for that could not be accomplished via an e-mail from the device? Sending media to another phone that can't view/play e-mail attachments is all I can think of. Isn't the size of an MMS message limited as well?
What percentage of mobile devices in the world CAN access email? What percentage of those devices have a data plan?
What percentage of mobile devices can send and receive MMS? What percentage of them have the service available?
Unless you have a smartphone or a Sidekick, you probably CAN'T receive emails on your device. Most carriers in developed countries allow unlimited or high amounts of messaging, which includes MMS, but meter data sent via email. MMS is limited, but the device and the network usually decides the file limitations, such as filetypes and size. My carrier's MMS system automatically resizes photos when sending, significantly saving data. Even the iPhone downsizes images when emailed from the device! So its like a forced MMS system.
MMS is about accessibility to more users and compatibility with most users as well.
I'm SO glad this review was written. It mirrors my expectations for the N900. I'll get one anyway because of the OS, not the ergonomics, but the phone is something we expect to be reliable and work, and it should've been a focus, not an afterthought. Suggesting the E71 over the N900 because of portrait support and messaging seems a little weak to me, like its an excuse to let the N900 off the hook. I really hope Nokia is taking the consumer demand for portrait support via ASR and better implementation of the phone app seriously and has an answer soon. The N900 has too much potential. We need it to perform up to expectations, even if they're based on imagination. (I mean that too.)
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by qole
Let's use the device first as a primary device before saying that its competent. I don't think many will agree. And having the phone there means it IS the point! But I understand where you are coming from. I think this will be a big part of what Nokia and the community improves in the first few months of release.
The phone part is competent enough; it just isn't the point of the N900.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by christexaport
What makes you think the phone was just an afterthought and not a focus? (It seemed to me that the only thing the review said that supports that conclusion was that it took 3 steps to get to the phone function, which other users have said isn't the case.)
I'm SO glad this review was written. It mirrors my expectations for the N900. I'll get one anyway because of the OS, not the ergonomics, but the phone is something we expect to be reliable and work, and it should've been a focus, not an afterthought.
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2009-09-22
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@ YoDude no the size of a MMS is not limited by the standard but providers can define their own maximum, and max 300 kB is recommended, according to Wikipedia.
I have to pay 10 EUR for unlimited SMS. I'm pretty damn sure in developed countries SMS are not free.
MMS is not free here either. Can't even get unlimited amount of these. This while NL is one of the cheapest countries to use voice and data!
And, if you don't have a data plan, you even pay for receiving a MMS. This is because the data received is downloaded by using the WAP or HTTP protocol, and this costs data.
Backwards compatibility indeed.
When you'd now receive a MMS with the N900 it will look like garbage because the SMS contains a binary encoded URL to the data.
Last edited by allnameswereout; 2009-09-22 at 05:48.
Originally Posted by christexaport
WTF? No way.
Most carriers in developed countries allow unlimited or high amounts of messaging, which includes MMS
I have to pay 10 EUR for unlimited SMS. I'm pretty damn sure in developed countries SMS are not free.
MMS is not free here either. Can't even get unlimited amount of these. This while NL is one of the cheapest countries to use voice and data!
And, if you don't have a data plan, you even pay for receiving a MMS. This is because the data received is downloaded by using the WAP or HTTP protocol, and this costs data.
MMS is about accessibility to more users and compatibility with most users as well.
When you'd now receive a MMS with the N900 it will look like garbage because the SMS contains a binary encoded URL to the data.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by timsamoff
And if, hypothetically, you are at a party, using your N900 as a jukebox, and it is sitting on top of a big stereo system, transmitting the music (which you are streaming via sshfs from your home network) via FM radio to the stereo, and suddenly the Z Z Top is interrupted by "bananaphone", everyone in the party who is grooving to the music will look up with puzzled expressions and you'll slink over to the N900, cursing the fact that you chose "bananaphone" as your ringtone...
The phone UI appears and asks if you'd like to answer or ignore the call. Answering the call ceases the current operation. Hanging up continues the previous process. Ignoring closes the phone UI and continues with the process at hand.
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....purely a hypothetical circumstance, it didn't happen to anyone I know at all. Nope. Nobody at all.
Carry on.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by qole
PulseAudio allows different sound for different applications. Symbian has various profiles for various use cases. Like vibrate only, flight mode, etc etc.
And if, hypothetically, you are at a party, using your N900 as a jukebox, and it is sitting on top of a big stereo system, transmitting the music (which you are streaming via sshfs from your home network) via FM radio to the stereo, and suddenly the Z Z Top is interrupted by "bananaphone", everyone in the party who is grooving to the music will look up with puzzled expressions and you'll slink over to the N900, cursing the fact that you chose "bananaphone" as your ringtone...
....purely a hypothetical circumstance, it didn't happen to anyone I know at all. Nope. Nobody at all.
Carry on.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by qole
You can disable the phone part easily (from the power key) for those moments where you don't want to receive calls/SMS's. Other functions continue to work. So yes, almost turning it into a N810
And if, hypothetically, you are at a party, using your N900 as a jukebox, and it is sitting on top of a big stereo system, transmitting the music (which you are streaming via sshfs from your home network) via FM radio to the stereo, and suddenly the Z Z Top is interrupted by "bananaphone", everyone in the party who is grooving to the music will look up with puzzled expressions and you'll slink over to the N900, cursing the fact that you chose "bananaphone" as your ringtone...
But otherwise: yes, it's a phone. If somebody calls you, it will ring.
When you answer a call, the previous task isn't actually dismissed. It just does multitasking. You can browse, answer a call, and while the call is running switch back to the browser window and continue to browse while talking.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo
You can place a shortcut to the phone on your Home screen, in which case it is 1(-2) clicks.
What makes you think the phone was just an afterthought and not a focus? (It seemed to me that the only thing the review said that supports that conclusion was that it took 3 steps to get to the phone function, which other users have said isn't the case.)
We also thought that many calls would be started not by starting the Call app, but rather click on the person (or select from the contact book) and then select to call him/her. Starting the Call app itself is slightly pointless.
You can just start to type on the Home view and that will start to search the contact book.
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2009-09-22
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Don't really know a whole lotta details about it, but looks very interesting. I just placed an order through Amazon, just because it has karaoke..yayyyyyy.
I just hope they have alot of good apps for it on OVI, otherwise its going to be just another IT---small market segment.
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I just hope they have alot of good apps for it on OVI, otherwise its going to be just another IT---small market segment.
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Having said that, from what I saw on video is that the N900 has a very intuitive way of keeping your contacts. Instead of sorting on protocols you sort on contacts and then decide the protocol. From IM to e-mail or SIP or GSM.
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