jay, you're a mess. We have to hang out sometime. I totally get you. Just enjoy life and have fun. I get it.

Jay is me on steroids. I apologize for the accidental cloning, but I won't take the blame for the 'roids.

Keep an eye on that metric. Your presence here is gonna help me wind down.

maybe I asked nicely and didn't let them sidetrack me that day. I had to dress up and act more professional to get the flamers off my back. I'm a flamer too, and I know what douses the best of them.

Now I'll need a blood and urine sample for performance enhancing drugs from you. (and not the little blue pill, before you try that one...) Texrat on steroids. That's not a pretty picture. You can't out talk or whip him.

Chris, the Against thread has seemed to me to have lots that is on topic. And this Indifference thread, well, it's a whole other sort of thing. But, in case you forgot, here's what you said on the thread you started:

Well, Chris, I didn't really want to debate people who wanted a screen on the N900 that was smaller than the one on the earlier NITs. I just wanted everyone to agree with me. People who think MMS is the most important thing for Nokia to tackle for the N900 probably wish everyone agreed with them, too.

I didn't see a preponderance of anti-Chris posts in the two unsupportive threads. Heck, Kanzir started off the "Glad there is no universal portrait support" thread with a very civil, non-ranting, well-articulated explanation, particularly from the point of view of a developer, as to why he doesn't care for it. Most the posts have been on topic and measured. Most the posts here, on the Indifference thread, have been more to the humorous side of things.

The most I've seen of what could be called personally directed posts were directly in response to your asking why people were reacting negatively to your passion for ASR and your approach; but, Chris, you asked for Chris-specific responses with that request. Just like you directly asked people who didn't agree with your ASR priority to start an explicit anti-ASR thread.

It isn't like any of us get to tell Nokia what to do anyway. So relax. You've sort of put yourself into "Chinese handcuffs" -- the harder you try to get things going your way, the more it works against you. Personally, I find you strident. Over time, if you're also helpful and knowledgeable, I'll probably come to like you; but your stridency is what shines brightest right now.

You aren't the first person here to rub others the wrong way. As an example, I'll confess that I have often found General Antilles rude (in fact, I've suspected he has some sort of virtual-world Asperger's Syndrome); but I quite like him, nonetheless. (And not only do I like him, in this virtual-world way or relating, but I very highly value what he has to say.) There have also been times when he's rabidly disagreed with me, but I knew not to take it personally. People disagreed with you about ASR and, it seems to me, you (foolishly) took it personally.

In my experience, it's extraordinarily rare here that anyone's attacks are intended personally. In fact, I generally find the people in this forum to be a remarkably amiable, and frequently delightfully funny and irreverent, group. My guess is that if you can go with the flow a bit, argue your points with less stridency (even while with equal passion), and recognize that almost no disagreements are aimed at you personally, you'll come to see this forum's members in a similar light.

Patience is key.

I nominate GeraldKo to be the official Maemo Good-Will Ambassador... when's the vote for that??

He'll have to beat up Den in USA for it.

Personally, I could give a "rat's" *** about ASR. I'm about as indifferent as you can get. If it's there...great...maybe I'll use it at some point if the mood strikes me. If it's not there, I'm still going to use the app just like I use apps in my current N800. I like the fact that the phone application has a portrait mode...since it mimics the functionality of my current phone. For everything else, I really don't care.

Do I get a cookie for being on-topic?

Would you accept a cheese sandwich instead? They're quite popular.