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Originally Posted by solarion
But but but your eee PC has a lower DPI!
Last time I looked at that model it was around 150, so that shouldn't be possible.
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But but but your eee PC has a lower DPI! Last time I looked at that model it was around 150, so that shouldn't be possible.
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2009-10-19
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Originally Posted by Corwin_bg
Because it gives more pixels/glyph, thereby decreasing the smudginess. I've given data points. Please bring concrete facts to the table too.
I fail to see how adding more pixels will help anyone reading a PDF. Adding more pixels and increasing the display size sure will, but we'll be moving out of phone territory then.
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2009-10-19
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Are you bringing any? I don't see smudginess comparison table... 
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2009-10-19
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Well, DPI is exactly what you call "pixels/glyph", thus: less DPI on your eeePC -> less pixels/glyph -> more smudginess than your N810. If you think otherwise then we don't share the same definition of smudginess I think.
Or there's some extra stuff we're not considering, like better font rendering.
Last edited by javispedro; 2009-10-19 at 05:44.
Or there's some extra stuff we're not considering, like better font rendering.
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2009-10-19
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There is extra stuff you are not considering, the eyesight of the user.
What is smudgy to one person can be clarity to another. It all depends how well you personally can resolve the resolution on the screen and naturally gets easier the larger the display size.
I do love high resolution small displays, as they have a paper-like quality due to the high DPI. However you still tend to have to zoom web sites a little even if they fit perfectly, for legibility.
What is smudgy to one person can be clarity to another. It all depends how well you personally can resolve the resolution on the screen and naturally gets easier the larger the display size.
I do love high resolution small displays, as they have a paper-like quality due to the high DPI. However you still tend to have to zoom web sites a little even if they fit perfectly, for legibility.
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2009-10-19
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Originally Posted by Bundyo
I have brought other facts (links to TI sites, etc.) but you're right. I could try to do a screenshot with a full-page render. I'll do so when I get a chance.
Are you bringing any? I don't see smudginess comparison table...
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2009-10-19
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Originally Posted by javispedro
No, DPI is "Dots Per Inch". DPG would be Dots Per Glyph, which is dependent upon font size and DPI, which is what I'm getting at. I'd like to render a full column of a two-column US Letter sized PDF, i.e. a US-based science article (here, physics).
Well, DPI is exactly what you call "pixels/glyph", thus: less DPI on your eeePC -> less pixels/glyph -> more smudginess than your N810. If you think otherwise then we don't share the same definition of smudginess I think.
Or there's some extra stuff we're not considering, like better font rendering.
Regardless, your allegation is false; I can clearly read a full column (as described above) on my eee 901 despite your protestations to the contrary.
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2009-10-19
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK
Sure, except that there's a clear, resolution-dependent limit. For instance, try to render the letter "a" into one pixel.
There is extra stuff you are not considering, the eyesight of the user.
What is smudgy to one person can be clarity to another. It all depends how well you personally can resolve the resolution on the screen and naturally gets easier the larger the display size.
I do love high resolution small displays, as they have a paper-like quality due to the high DPI. However you still tend to have to zoom web sites a little even if they fit perfectly, for legibility.
I've looked at it closely, and it looks to me that there just aren't enough (but *almost* enough) pixels per glyph at a full page length (i.e. full column).
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2009-10-19
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True, but it sounds like you are comparing a 10" 1024x600 screen to a 3.5" 800x480 one. Naturally, the former will look better but it would be pointless (not to mention insanely expensive) having a 3.5" 1024x600 screen. Sure it would render the font better, but to the human eye it would still look a blur.
My Xperia X1 had a 3" 800x480 screen and rendered pages with great detail, but I still found the smaller font sizes hard to read and ultimately sold it for the N900 hoping the extra .5" will help. The DPI was so high you could hardly tell the difference with anti-alising on or off, clearly your eye is starting to struggle to distinguish details at that point. A DPI any higher than that would go from hard to impossible and you cannot go much more than 4" in screen size before its too big to carry around in your day to day life.
Believe me, if it worked I would be all for it. But I found the iPod Touch far more usable for web browsing than my Xperia X1, purely because the DPI was just too high for such a small screen.
My Xperia X1 had a 3" 800x480 screen and rendered pages with great detail, but I still found the smaller font sizes hard to read and ultimately sold it for the N900 hoping the extra .5" will help. The DPI was so high you could hardly tell the difference with anti-alising on or off, clearly your eye is starting to struggle to distinguish details at that point. A DPI any higher than that would go from hard to impossible and you cannot go much more than 4" in screen size before its too big to carry around in your day to day life.
Believe me, if it worked I would be all for it. But I found the iPod Touch far more usable for web browsing than my Xperia X1, purely because the DPI was just too high for such a small screen.