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Originally Posted by johnkzin
Uh, the Pre has multitouch, no suit from apple, therefore no death grip as your hypothesis states. Nokia could release multitouch features and apple would be wise to sit on its hands just as it has done with palm. Lets see, which would you rather have in your phone, GSM and WLAN, or multitouch?
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
In this same thread earlier it was mentioned that Apple was sued for using multi-touch in their devices. So, it is not their patent.
I predict the outcome will be:
1) a nominal payment from Apple to Nokia to cover past infringement
2) a license sharing agreement that lets the iPhone move forward as is, and lets Nokia utilize iPhone-isms for things like Multi-touch.
And, I'm pretty sure #2 is the hold-up in the negotiations, not #1. I bet Apple has a death-grip on preventing other manufacturers (esp. one as big as Nokia) from having a multi-touch experience that's comparable to the iPhone.
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Originally Posted by quipper8
Uh, the Pre has multitouch, no suit from apple, therefore no death grip as your hypothesis states.
Re-read what I actually wrote.
I didn't say "Apple has a deathgrip on multi-touch". I said Apple has a deathgrip on multi-touch that is comparable to the iPhone. There's huge gulf between those two statements.
Is multi-touch on the Pre _exactly_ like multi-touch on the iPhone? I sincerely doubt it.
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Originally Posted by vkv.raju
You also need to re-read what I actually wrote.
In this same thread earlier it was mentioned that Apple was sued for using multi-touch in their devices. So, it is not their patent.
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Originally Posted by quipper8
The Pre's use of multi-touch is just different enough from Apple's licensed patents on it
Uh, the Pre has multitouch, no suit from apple, therefore no death grip as your hypothesis states. Nokia could release multitouch features and apple would be wise to sit on its hands just as it has done with palm. Lets see, which would you rather have in your phone, GSM and WLAN, or multitouch?
that the Pre is unaffected. If Nokia went the route the Pre did, then it would be Palm Nokia would pay some IP fees to.I find it very hard to prove that multi-touch is necessary beyond input tasks on a mobile device - all this fuss about Nokia and others *needing* it is pointless in the scheme of things mobile and accessible.
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Originally Posted by vvaz
Not quite. I work in patent litigation and while I have not read the complaint yet (I plan to), the press release said that Nokia is suing Apple for infringement. That means in the complaint Nokia has identified certain patents that they claim Apple is infringing upon. If it was a matter of Nokia's patent applications being refused because of Apple's patents that would be an issue to be taken up in the US Patent and Trademark Office, not a federal district court.
Desperation? Rather not. Probably Nokia wanted to use some technology patented by Apple, was refused and now want to monetize on its own patents.
Business as usual.
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
If all of us need to reread what you wrote multiple times, the problem is probably with what you wrote.
You also need to re-read what I actually wrote.
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Originally Posted by ARJWright
I agree. It's not a *NEED*, but for what seems to be a significant segment of the user community, it IS a strong desire.
all this fuss about Nokia and others *needing* it is pointless in the scheme of things mobile and accessible.
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Originally Posted by quipper8
Not all of you. Just two of you. And the problem seems to be that you didn't read to the end of the sentence.
If all of us need to reread what you wrote multiple times, the problem is probably with what you wrote.
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I'm not so sure I would want to sue Apple over patent stuff when their phones drop 10-30% of calls.
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