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2009-11-10 , 08:04
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#31
Originally Posted by qole View Post
My biggest fear is the danger from a niche OS like Maemo going mainstream. It didn't really matter before that many of the built-in apps stored your password in plain text in the system registry, because Maemo devices weren't targets for malicious types. But when Maemo devices start showing up all over, I hope the 'dangerous' part won't be the danger of losing all your account info to crackers.

And I wonder now, if a woman identifies herself as someone men prefer to have affairs with rather than someone who prefers married men, is she really that dangerous after all?

For operating systems and women, I think I prefer the appearance of danger over actual danger any day.

My OS can wear a leather jacket with the anarchy symbol on it and have piercings all over, just don't let me be a victim of identity theft...
The trick with being dangerous - for women or devices, I think, it to know that and behave accordingly.

I take great care about other people's men, knowing that despite my ordinary appearance, a full blast of my personality can be damaging to existing relationships. I am the woman your Mother warned you about. (Interesting article in the Mail yesterday - yes I know, I was very bored - about the problem with more and more people being emotionally unfaithful and thinking it's ok as long as it's not physical.)

If, like Dr J, you're into fast, powerful cars, I presume you need to have the confidence to handle such a device safely: Personally, I would never drive an alfa - I'm not entirely convinced I could do so safely (and I probably couldn't reach the pedals). For me, driving a fast car might be worderful, but would be very scary. A powerful car in the hands of someone who can't manage it is a lethal weapon

Exactly how Maemo needs to be careful, or handled with care... someone enlighten me?
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#32
Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
The trick with being dangerous - for women or devices, I think, it to know that and behave accordingly.

I take great care about other people's men, knowing that despite my ordinary appearance, a full blast of my personality can be damaging to existing relationships. I am the woman your Mother warned you about. (Interesting article in the Mail yesterday - yes I know, I was very bored - about the problem with more and more people being emotionally unfaithful and thinking it's ok as long as it's not physical.)

If, like Dr J, you're into fast, powerful cars, I presume you need to have the confidence to handle such a device safely: Personally, I would never drive an alfa - I'm not entirely convinced I could do so safely (and I probably couldn't reach the pedals). For me, driving a fast car might be worderful, but would be very scary. A powerful car in the hands of someone who can't manage it is a lethal weapon

Exactly how Maemo needs to be careful, or handled with care... someone enlighten me?
I think you and I would get along just fine.

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Any car in the hands of someone who can't manage one is a lethal weapon...

I don't think Maemo needs to be handled with care however, it might not be the best thing to use every day by the general public.

I did know a "dangerous" woman who drove a "dangerous", drop top, pearl white, Alfa-Romeo Giuletta. It was great for jaunts up the mountains to a favorite restaurant... I don't think it was something an average Joe would use as his daily commuter or the average Jane would use to pick the kids up from school with.

Also, the corollary to qole's fear would be that in the future the N900 becomes known its role in an infamous crime or a series of dastardly acts that the public becomes aware of.
The fear then could be that simply using an N900 gets one associated with the deeds of others.

In the end the remark may have just been the good Doctors attempt at marketing spin...

(I wish I could find a link to a recent stateside ad for Direct TV where the Cable Corp. Inc. decides that because customers are comfortable with Direct TV their strategy would be to market them selfs as the "edgy and dangerous" one...)
 
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
(I wish I could find a link to a recent stateside ad for Direct TV where the Cable Corp. Inc. decides that because customers are comfortable with Direct TV their strategy would be to market them selfs as the "edgy and dangerous" one...)
I like the Direct TV commercial, where they say, we'll just raise the price, if we are more expensive than the competition, people will think we are better.

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#34
Sorry i'm late to the party but this looked pretty dangerous to me

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The N900 is apparently quite dangerous, especially in the stage when it is transforming shapes.

See the video here: http://www.maemoproject.com/
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#36
Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
For me, driving a fast car might be worderful, but would be very scary. A powerful car in the hands of someone who can't manage it is a lethal weapon

Exactly how Maemo needs to be careful, or handled with care... someone enlighten me?
A fast car is a lethal weapon not just to others, but to yourself. You could crash it and die instantly.

A fast car, let's say a McLaren F1, is pretty much a finished and durable product. You can be running at 140MPH and need to brake fast to avoid an unseen obstacle. If you are skilled enough, have reactions fast enough, you will brake and you will save your life.

While you obviously won't be running a N900 at 140 MPH, Maemo can be dangerous to yourself because of its rough edges. Imagine you are in the middle of a very important presentation, and the kernel crashes because an unfixed bug. Your presentation went to hell, because the system you relied on had rough edges, and you weren't skilled enough to fix them yourself.

So in one case, lack of driving skill can get you in trouble, but it won't be because you didn't know how to tune your car. In the other case, lack of using skill probably won't get you in trouble, but lack of tuning skill can surely do. The inverse case can happen as well: you could be driving at 40 MPH, but the mechanic didn't check the brakes and you crash; you can have the most up-to-date Fremantle version, but you opened 30 YouTube videos, forgot to close them and you run out of memory.

I know the comparisons are a bit extreme, but I hope my point gets across. No system, ever, will be 100% fail-safe, error-free, or bug-clean. But that doesn't mean it is not an objective to strive for.

Risk will always exist, specially in systems with no boundaries. Plan ahead, have contingency measures, be aware of the system limits, of your own limits... and act accordingly.
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#37
Alfas aren't necessarily very fast cars. What makes them interesting for enthusiasts is more about their look and the feeling they convey. They are beautiful, temperamental things that have soul and personality. They have a reputatation for not being very reliable and practicality is not very high on Alfa Romeos agenda. They often have quirks and peculiarities that occasionally might drive their owners slightly mad. Some might give up, but for those that endure it doesn't matter. As long as you have a little patience and give it a little love it rewards you tenfold when you take it for a drive on a countryside road on a sunny day. When you hear the clatter from the exhaust as you accelerate through your favourite corner you forgive it all its sins. The handling and overall feel of the car is just right, you feel like you are a team. Later you find yourself walking the long way through the garage just for a brief look at it from a new angle and maybe a gentle stroke along a fender. It is a car you develop a relationship with.

The vibe I have gotten from Jaaksis blog posts is that he wanted the N900 to be a bit like that. A bit of a rebel. It doesn't have to do everything right or always work the way you want it to. It doesn't have to play nice every day and yes, it might even be a bit naughty and dangerous at times. It's more about the feeling. It's different, has personality and if you only have a little patience and give it some attention it can grow to be a very close and personal friend. A very cool and interesting friend which will never become boring or predictable.
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2009-11-10 , 22:57
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#38
I just hope Ari can see that his particular vision won't suit well with a more massive market. Perhaps there is a sweet niche between massive and enthusiast where Maemo tries to be (that would leave Symbian for mass consumption).

Edit: And said particular niche spot could on how much tuning Maemo needs to satisfy the needs of its target market. Tuning should not be needed for the system to work well out of the box. Tuning should only be needed for making things work very well for a particular use, or to add extra things or for cosmetic reasons (this being the reason of the panorama desktop?).
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Peet, I know full well what a straw man is, and I make sure to avoid them.

I simply took exception to your broad declaration there. Disputing that statement per se does not mean any logical fallacy occurred... just a bit of pedantry.
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Straw men can be dangerous too.



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