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2010-01-12
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Originally Posted by Flandry
I think it is two sides of the same problem.
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2010-01-12
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#32
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I for one would not feel punished if CLI apps were moved to CLI.
Apt is so much more efficient and easier to work in than the Package Manager (my experience comes from N810, mind you.) So often the packages I wanted to install were already hidden and would require Red Pill mode to see anyway.
But.. that's just my opinion. GUI for GUI.. CLI for .. well.. everything.
Apt is so much more efficient and easier to work in than the Package Manager (my experience comes from N810, mind you.) So often the packages I wanted to install were already hidden and would require Red Pill mode to see anyway.
But.. that's just my opinion. GUI for GUI.. CLI for .. well.. everything.
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2010-02-09
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#33
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Check the second-from-top users comment here:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/mplayer/
Clearly, CLI apps need to be marked better in app manager. It is also bad marketing to have CLI apps in downoads/product section of maemo.org website. It creates the message that "this product is for command line users".
Still having CLI apps in a separate repository would be bad. For example many GUI apps use CLI apps (such as mplayer) as their engine.
I would suggest having CLI apps in a separate section (CLI/ ?) in app manager.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/mplayer/
Clearly, CLI apps need to be marked better in app manager. It is also bad marketing to have CLI apps in downoads/product section of maemo.org website. It creates the message that "this product is for command line users".
Still having CLI apps in a separate repository would be bad. For example many GUI apps use CLI apps (such as mplayer) as their engine.
I would suggest having CLI apps in a separate section (CLI/ ?) in app manager.
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2010-02-09
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#34
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I'm not so sure about that, command line applications are typically the most useful Linux applications.
Perhaps what is needed is clearer indication when a given package does not include a GUI, for example a little xterm icon and a warning message.
Perhaps what is needed is clearer indication when a given package does not include a GUI, for example a little xterm icon and a warning message.
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2010-02-09
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#35
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Ideally, mplayer wouldn't have got through to Extras without using the standard icon (or badge) and including a sentence in its description:
(Assuming that it doesn't have the basic GUI like it did on diablo)
mplayer is a multimedia engine which can be used by other front-end players or via the command line.
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2010-02-11
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[QUOTE=Jaffa;518234]Ideally, mplayer wouldn't have got through to Extras without using the standard icon (or badge) and including a sentence in its description/QUOTE]
I don't that is enough. Assume the following things happen:
1) users asks why his/her video doesn't play
2) forum people tell him/her to install mplayer
3) user finds mplayer from HAM and installs without bothering to look at icon or description
4) "it doesn't work, I didn't get any icon"
popup is not useful either, HAM is already polluted by the legalese popup so people just ignore them.
Separate section or "apt-get only" makes it clear, and means that forum users need to explain at step #2 that it is a command line application.
I don't that is enough. Assume the following things happen:
1) users asks why his/her video doesn't play
2) forum people tell him/her to install mplayer
3) user finds mplayer from HAM and installs without bothering to look at icon or description
4) "it doesn't work, I didn't get any icon"
popup is not useful either, HAM is already polluted by the legalese popup so people just ignore them.
Separate section or "apt-get only" makes it clear, and means that forum users need to explain at step #2 that it is a command line application.
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2010-03-07
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#37
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FYI: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...831#post558831
Brainstrom moderators: Please move this to implemented(solution 4)
Brainstrom moderators: Please move this to implemented(solution 4)