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2010-02-03
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#32
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Originally Posted by mcdull
Without IM, you can probably get about 4-5 days out of it. The battery is only 10% bigger than the n900. The E series engineers should spend a few months helping optimizing battery on Maemo.
I think the E71/E72 are known for long lasting battery, they have bigger battery than n900, how long did you get if you don't run IM?
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2010-02-03
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#33
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But even if you don't use internet connection at all, Nokia will last up to 2 days (that is my experience). Look how bad it is comparing with other phones... is linux eating really that much more battery than Symbian ? If the answer is 'yes' then pray for software udpates. If 'not' then N900 hardware is a piece of junk.
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#34
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Originally Posted by mcdull
Yes, but if Nokia is going to release a smartphone that is significantly thicker and heavier than the competition (e.g Driod), it should at least have better battery life..
If there is a netbook can be always online for a day without a charge, I will dump my N900.
Before I bought N900, with my research done, I've already known it consumes battery like other high-end smartphones, not signficant worse but definitely not better.
If they had used the space taken up by the stylus, they could have made the battery about 8-10% bigger
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2010-02-03
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#35
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
So, I think it's about the same siutation.
Without IM, you can probably get about 4-5 days out of it. The battery is only 10% bigger than the n900. The E series engineers should spend a few months helping optimizing battery on Maemo.
With IM running on E71, you got only half of time than normal.
In N900, I also got half of the time if running iM.
The E series is business-oriented, so it's not surprised to me they optimize it for battery.
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2010-02-03
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#36
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Battery drain and 'My Location':
I never set 'My Location' to anything else than 'do not show'. So no GPS receiver in the matrix for me
I never set 'My Location' to anything else than 'do not show'. So no GPS receiver in the matrix for me
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2010-02-03
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All this could be easily debugged with powertop. If someone would have made dead simple battery discharge program that logs power,dmesg etc couple of times in minute to file wich can be send to webpage which draws lines for consumption and battery level and shows what was happening then from logs. Also some icon to system area which changes from green->yellow->red by current discharge level.
It just makes me wonder why these have not been yet fully implemented because they would be really really good debuggin tools for average users. And because of that developers would get huge amount information about what program sucks *** and what kicks it.
There is some little bits in wiki saying that people testing extras should look how much program uses battery but i cannot find dead simple guide how to setup system and how to analyze logs.
It just makes me wonder why these have not been yet fully implemented because they would be really really good debuggin tools for average users. And because of that developers would get huge amount information about what program sucks *** and what kicks it.
There is some little bits in wiki saying that people testing extras should look how much program uses battery but i cannot find dead simple guide how to setup system and how to analyze logs.
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2010-02-03
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Originally Posted by slender
It's not as easy as that. Powertop only indicates which apps are causing the most wakeups, which is not necessarily indicative of CPU usage (or power usage). And dmesg will give very little information about what's going on with the system, unless it's raising errors or activating/deactivating some of the hardware (not all of it logs).
All this could be easily debugged with powertop. If someone would have made dead simple battery discharge program that logs power,dmesg etc couple of times in minute to file wich can be send to webpage which draws lines for consumption and battery level and shows what was happening then from logs. Also some icon to system area which changes from green->yellow->red by current discharge level.
It just makes me wonder why these have not been yet fully implemented because they would be really really good debuggin tools for average users. And because of that developers would get huge amount information about what program sucks *** and what kicks it.
There is some little bits in wiki saying that people testing extras should look how much program uses battery but i cannot find dead simple guide how to setup system and how to analyze logs.
There's been scripts posted to some of the battery threads to monitor (and graph) battery usage over time, but unless an app is causing major changes in battery usage then you're unlikely to pick anything up.
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2010-02-03
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I just noticed same thing about powertop and tried to search that thread what you are talking about and right now my "**** this" meter hits quite high. I cant find it event with google.
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But in the end there should be some sort of easy debug program that shows you if phone is intensively discharging battery.
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But in the end there should be some sort of easy debug program that shows you if phone is intensively discharging battery.
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2010-02-03
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I really liked that about the DROID / Android. It gives you information on the usage of your power out of the box. Tells you (in percent) how much power your screen or programs use.
OK, Something more detailed would be even better (Nokia Energy Profiler, anybody?), but if there is an API, anything should be possible.
OK, Something more detailed would be even better (Nokia Energy Profiler, anybody?), but if there is an API, anything should be possible.
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Before I bought N900, with my research done, I've already known it consumes battery like other high-end smartphones, not signficant worse but definitely not better.