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Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
Refer to this post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=16
This makes little or no sense to me. I have done you the courtesy of resonding to your comments inline, in reasonable detail. If you are trying to make a point please clarify as I can't see what you are talking about?
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Have you heard of Google? I specifically went to find a reference to show you that several manufacturers have products as you would have noticed had you read the article. Look at the IBM thinkpad then. For once put some effort into things!

Thinkpad X60

Thinkpad X Series

Other manufacturers make similar products (including Nokia) but I can't be bothered to do the job of google for you!
Please refer to my post. It seems. you don't read mine thoroughly either. The point made was there are "Laptops that fit in the palm of ones hand with 3g that can make phone calls and sms".

Thinkpad X-Series is not that at all.
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
This makes little or no sense to me. I have done you the courtesy of resonding to your comments inline, in reasonable detail. If you are trying to make a point please clarify as I can't see what you are talking about?
My point was that the major advertising. The advertising that sold the N900. was not made by nokia. it was made through blogs and reviews.

However, that is not a big deal. It's a major HW change that is requested. it's not even system wide like you say. its just an app. so whats the big deal? why can't they just make it? since many are asking?
 
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Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
Please refer to my post. It seems. you don't read mine thoroughly either. The point made was there are "Laptops that fit in the palm of ones hand with 3g that can make phone calls and sms".

Thinkpad X-Series is not that at all.
Your post made several points:

Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
My Laptop does not fit in the palm of my one hand.
My Laptop does not have a 3g chip.
My Laptop does not send sms.
However,
My laptop runs windows 7 and Ubuntu.
My Laptop is C2D with 4GB ram.

My n900 is not as strong as my laptop. My n900 cannot be compared to my laptop, nor can it replace my laptop.

My n900 does not type vertically, cause a decision was made to not invest in this option in the current release of its operating system.

You can excuse the decision, but it does not matter. Many people will still ask for it. Because it is a logical request.

It's either a phone or a tablet. you wanna mix them, then people will expect you to do a good job on both sides.
I believe I also didn't bother to address running Windows 7 or Unbuntu either. The point I was referring to, and I believe that I quoted that too.

Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
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The N900 is a 'talet like device' that is capable of making phone calls. Many laptops have the ability to utilise a sim card to make a cellular connection rather than plug in a usb cellular modem.

Just because it can make calls doesn't make the device specifically a phone any more than the introduction of fax protocols on computers made them a fax machine.
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There are also posts by other users on here about this issue in the thread. Please do not confuse or attribute their posts to mine. I know this is sometimes easy to do when there is a lot of trafic by several people in response to your posts.

Last edited by Fargus; 2010-03-28 at 09:05. Reason: Original post pasted in twice - confusing.
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Actually your understanding is not correct. To avoid possible confusion I am placing that as a plain statement. No reference is being made to other's use case on this. Your assumption, yes it is an assumption, has been corrected once, do not start trying to place your own viewpoint as my stated point; I don't believe that I have done the same to yourself so please do not disrespect others on this forum!
This is an informative statement? Really?


Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Amazing, even with having to cope with no predictive text or portrait mode either. I guess struggling with this 'awful' hardware keyboard can't be that bad then!

Nice to see it's not just me that thought this was an obvious thing too then.
Reallly?

Now if I say "How is that for consitency.". You'd be offended right? even though it's a plain statement?
 
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Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
My point was that the major advertising. The advertising that sold the N900. was not made by nokia. it was made through blogs and reviews.

However, that is not a big deal. It's a major HW change that is requested. it's not even system wide like you say. its just an app. so whats the big deal? why can't they just make it? since many are asking?
Okay so if I understand you correctly you are asking Nokia to be responsible for something that they had no control over and was not sourced from them but by a 3rd party blogger/reviewer?

I would agree that it might make a lot of sense (and I have argued for this as well on this site) that implimenting text from the phone app keyboard as an option would be a nice touch.

The issue for Nokia is that the Maemo team are a tiny section of the Nokia team. Whilst this is a nice to have feature it is not high up on the list of things to do as the device is usuable (even if awkward for some users) without this addition and there are other things that need to be addressed before this. There are a number of technologies that are being implimented behind the scenes such as USSD and ironing out a huge list of bugs too. With resource stretched then it makes sense to stabilise things prior to adding additional functionality which in turn might introduce bugs as well. Better a well functioning device with limitations that can be added later than a feature frenzy that is bug ridden.
 
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Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
This is an informative statement? Really?
If you want to be picky on semantics: Did I use the word informative? No!

Originally Posted by Corso85 View Post
Reallly?

Now if I say "How is that for consitency.". You'd be offended right? even though it's a plain statement?
An assumption again. No I am not offended, just makes my point for me actually. You are once again assuming.

Why can you not post responses in a less emotive manner? The whole post you are quoting was in response to someone else, about another person's post and you belabour something that I have answered already. Does this sound a less emotive response?
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Okay so if I understand you correctly you are asking Nokia to be responsible for something that they had no control over and was not sourced from them but by a 3rd party blogger/reviewer?

I would agree that it might make a lot of sense (and I have argued for this as well on this site) that implimenting text from the phone app keyboard as an option would be a nice touch.

The issue for Nokia is that the Maemo team are a tiny section of the Nokia team. Whilst this is a nice to have feature it is not high up on the list of things to do as the device is usuable (even if awkward for some users) without this addition and there are other things that need to be addressed before this. There are a number of technologies that are being implimented behind the scenes such as USSD and ironing out a huge list of bugs too. With resource stretched then it makes sense to stabilise things prior to adding additional functionality which in turn might introduce bugs as well. Better a well functioning device with limitations that can be added later than a feature frenzy that is bug ridden.
I never held nokia responsible for anything. But also, people are not at fault for being fooled in the false propaganda. It happens. so why fault them?

We are here now. It is not a trivial function. If Nokia or Maemo are interested in the N900 as a product and not just "Development" in general. I asure you this function is not trivial. MANY people are interested. what lead you to the assumptions that it's a minority that needs? just look at the number of threads created asking for this!
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Why can you not post responses in a less emotive manner? The whole post you are quoting was in response to someone else, about another person's post and you belabour something that I have answered already. Does this sound a less emotive response?
You are right. My bad. I cannot deny that. I just felt that someone for once has to make a stand for this issue and at least defend the people who request it.

I'm sorry if I offended you.
 

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