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2010-04-27 , 02:41
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Yeah, in Moscow the law is whatever the authorities you are dealing with think it is. We expats often had to reenter Russia, and we were constantly surveying each other to find out which entry point had the least oppressive laws.

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2010-04-27 , 04:54
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I too want to change my imei number, just for a minute of two, I promise I will change it back, so that I can install the PR 1.2 handwirtten package, . For some reason, Nokia/maemo thinks only people 'nailed' down in HK needs that, the .deb checked for your imei and quits if it is not one of them . I guess it would be easier if one can go into the package and hack the check imei instruction. This would be easier than changing the imei, Yes, I had the package, if anyone wants to play with it. PM only


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2010-04-27 , 05:23
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Originally Posted by bunanson View Post
I too want to change my imei number, just for a minute of two, I promise I will change it back, so that I can install the PR 1.2 handwirtten package, . For some reason, Nokia/maemo thinks only people 'nailed' down in HK needs that, the .deb checked for your imei and quits if it is not one of them . Yes, I had the package, if anyone wants to play with it. PM please
Don't fool us, please.
 

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2010-04-27 , 05:28
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Don't fool us, please.
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No soup for you, egoshin.

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2010-04-27 , 06:23
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Packets and distribution are never bind to IMEI due to a lot of reasons. One is a production doesn't warranty a linear set of IMEI numbers and database of acceptable IMEI is impossible to put into package.

It is possible to bind packet to specific distribution (HK, for exam).
 

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2010-04-29 , 14:06
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Ok, guys, let's not keep yelling past each other.

Abill_UK for the most part you are correct regarding IMEIs but I have a feeling archimonde and sebastian are too, within their particular contexts. After having worked with Nokia logistics operations, I've seen some crazy regulations and policies! Moscow was one of the craziest.

Some countries are so restrictive with certain items of trade (and cell phones are a BIG one) that they force the creation of massive grey (and black markets)-- and by consequence you see government officials playing by the rules until the right bribe crosses their hands.

Anyway I have no doubt based on his posts that archimonde is sincere. We've had outright crackers on the forum and they are not ashamed to divulge their intent at all.
The problem is its not only illegal but also immoral to post such information on a forum directly linked to Nokia.
Talk of this nature for that very reason should not be tolerated by moderation on this forum and should be questioned as a ruling by the Meamo.org for obvious reasons.
The people asking may or may not be legitimate that is not for us to question, what IS for the forum moderation as a whole to question is the legality of such talk being tolerated on Meamo.org because of obvious link to Nokia direct.
If you allow such threads / talk of such illegal nature regarding people asking how to change imei and answers to be posted then i would like to be informed of this decision and the exact reasons why.
I feel this is the only way to clear this matter.
 
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2010-04-29 , 14:08
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
The problem is its not only illegal but also immoral to post such information on a forum directly linked to Nokia.
Talk of this nature for that very reason should not be tolerated by moderation on this forum and should be questioned as a ruling by the Meamo.org for obvious reasons.
The people asking may or may not be legitimate that is not for us to question, what IS for the forum moderation as a whole to question is the legality of such talk being tolerated on Meamo.org because of obvious link to Nokia direct.
If you allow such threads / talk of such illegal nature regarding people asking how to change imei and answers to be posted then i would like to be informed of this decision and the exact reasons why.
I feel this is the only way to clear this matter.
Hold on a moment.

We're not a very strict forum. Merely talking about a subject, even one like this, is not forbidden per se. Posting details supporting illegal activity, however, is.

It is very important to be clear on the distinction.
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2010-04-29 , 14:22
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Hold on a moment.

We're not a very strict forum. Merely talking about a subject, even one like this, is not forbidden per se. Posting details supporting illegal activity, however, is.

It is very important to be clear on the distinction.
Thankyou Texrat for promptly replying and making the point that it IS ILLEGAL to post information regarding emei change.
May i suggest that posts of this nature be monitored carefully as to the responses given if not already done so because people do not give up and will be most determined if they think such information could be obtained on this forum.
 
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2010-04-29 , 14:30
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Thankyou Texrat for promptly replying and making the point that it IS ILLEGAL to post information regarding emei change.
May i suggest that posts of this nature be monitored carefully as to the responses given if not already done so because people do not give up and will be most determined if they think such information could be obtained on this forum.
That's still a little vague. It's against policy to use this forum for the promotion of illegal activities, sure. But I don't believe forum administration (Reggie) has much issue with talking around the subject.

And moderators moderate what we can. We depend on the community to bring questionable activity to our attention. A previous thread on this subject came *close* to the line but didn't cross it, and I think that's a good indication that for the most part we're okay.
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2010-04-29 , 14:49
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sebastian_ua96 is correct about laws, but here's the best part: If someone stole your mobile device(phone) you cannot get it back with IMEI tracking. It WAS possible, It IS still possible but in new Turkish law, police will never track your device for you. So, since OP already said that he is living in Turkey, IMEI number will not be useful for him to get his device back (if he loses) or anybody else. (if it's a theft)

See here (sorry, in Turkish. Maybe you can use Google Translate if you care that much): http://www.turkhukuksitesi.com/showthread.php?t=6733
 
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