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to say that nokia then should use intel hardware and windows os to compete is in my eyes very weird.
That is at least one thing they shouldnt do.. Intel is quite ready yet.
No if they want to release a phone this year for Maemo that is ahead of anything else then that would be an N900 plus:
1> dual core Cortex A9
2> 512MB (or better 786MB) real memory (besides 512MB or 786MB swap)
3> 512MB root fs (or really 1 big memory of 32GB+ that is fast, instead of that 256MB NAND flash + 32GB)
4> 4 row keyboard
5> real compass
The phone could be a bit bigger screen and maybe a bit bigger overall, but a little bit less thick.
But the thing is that currently it is not really the hardware that does it, its the software.
So lets hope that Meego can so some great things on the hardware that i just described above.
That is at least one thing they shouldnt do.. Intel is quite ready yet.
No if they want to release a phone this year for Maemo that is ahead of anything else then that would be an N900 plus:
1> dual core Cortex A9
2> 512MB (or better 786MB) real memory (besides 512MB or 786MB swap)
3> 512MB root fs (or really 1 big memory of 32GB+ that is fast, instead of that 256MB NAND flash + 32GB)
4> 4 row keyboard
5> real compass
The phone could be a bit bigger screen and maybe a bit bigger overall, but a little bit less thick.
But the thing is that currently it is not really the hardware that does it, its the software.
So lets hope that Meego can so some great things on the hardware that i just described above.
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Which is just peachy for the -like- 4 of us, but it matters zero for the rest of them 1 billion phone users.
Come again??
I'll give you the UI is different than most desktop/window managers; but once you go into shell it is Linux.[...] Want SSH with keys? Oh, all I gotta do is SCP over my ~/.ssh directory.. exactly like I already do!
Few ever SSH. I don't, for example, because I'm on Windows and, while SSH is available and installed, it's not my first choice. I have VNC bound to Alt+Ctrl+V.
Linux-alikeness and the ability to build your own apps is great for a minority and does little to nothing to overturn Nokia's descending trend nor it's image as trailblazers. Neo Freerunner has Linux, 2 accelerometers, touch, and it boots to text only. Sold 10.000 units and died off. Guess why.
I couldn't care less you can rebuild ls to run on N900. I can't, I don't even have C installed (though a programmer 15 years now). What I do care about, however, is the fact that, as a user, I see 3 OSs, with 3 different app bases, and 3 different UIs. Linux, Android and Maemo. They don't cross-run apps, so they are different to me. I am the average user.
To me, the average user, b/ash is a novelty, a nice touch. It should never be there. There's a touchscreen, I plan to use it. It's a phone slash internet tablet, not a pocket compile farm, not a geek curiosity. I should only be in the terminal to work around a bug that is going to be patched tomorrow.
Anyway, the reason it was listed there, as I said, was because we all run the same generation OS and the same underlying tech. Nokia used to be further up.
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Originally Posted by mrojas
Nokia has no one else to blame but themselves. Maybe this will wake them up (they do have a good history of re-inventing themselves)
I would say, congrats to Eldar on single handledly damaging Nokia so badly.
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2010-04-30
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Originally Posted by egoshin
Heh. Although I don't get his "hot is... hot not.." spiel, I've to agree that the iPad is something else.
iPad? please, don't promote that crap...
Apple really hit many great points with that slate implementation. Don't underestimate the iPad... cause iPad's advantages don't show up in its specs or description.
I've used it for almost 3 weeks now and... I've found plenty to like on it, even though it exists within apple's golden jail.
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2010-04-30
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
If that was about my post, you misunderstand. Nokia doing Windows would be odd. What I meant was that to me x86 is superior to ARM not in horsepower or anything, but because it would give me the freedom to choose my own OS, and, with it, my own app base.
to say that nokia then should use intel hardware and windows os to compete is in my eyes very weird.
If I'm a Windows user and a Windows programmer, the ability to run XP on a portable would mean everything to me, because I could run projects I developed myself, like logging on at home to check the temperature sensors and program the heating system. It's home to me, I know the apps, I know the UI, I know the little kinks.
I don't suggest Nokia should use Windows. I used x86 as the thing I perceive as the next step. The netbooks getting smaller meeting the phones getting smarter. Replace x86 with whatever you think is the next step in technology.
@egoshin
You actually understood that? Must be my English, all I got was unrelated sentences about European GSM.
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2010-04-30
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Originally Posted by ysss
I would not say that iPad has nothing. But if we take off the niche which is covered by netbooks and "kindles" (iPad has a similar form factor as netbooks or Kindle) then nothing new is in it. OK, Kindle has a slow screen and can't be used to watch video in bed.
I've used it for almost 3 weeks now and... I've found plenty to like on it, even though it exists within apple's golden jail.
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2010-04-30
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
They are re-inventing themselves, and the fact that the N8 was being kept under-wraps is because they aren't done with that yet. Now look how much they had to disclose early.
Nokia has no one else to blame but themselves. Maybe this will wake them up (they do have a good history of re-inventing themselves)
Every single bit of criticism and bad press Nokia has received would be fair, if they had released the N8 right now as it is. But that it not the case (and even the most complaints for eye candy can be addressed with theming...).
The N8 is part of a bigger family of which we don't know anything yet. I would bet solid gold that they even didn't intend to present it as its flagship (a place that is for the MeeGo device); and that it was going to be announced as part of that.
All in all, I am glad the MeeGo device is stil in hiding.
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2010-04-30
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Originally Posted by mrojas
Yes, ALWAYS only one step for some great "coming soon" dreams.
They are re-inventing themselves, and the fact that the N8 was being kept under-wraps is because they aren't done with that yet. Now look how much they had to disclose early.
Every single bit of criticism and bad press Nokia has received would be fair, if they had released the N8 right now as it is. But that it not the case (and even the most complaints for eye candy can be addressed with theming...).
The N8 is part of a bigger family of which we don't know anything yet. I would bet solid gold that they even didn't intend to present it as its flagship (a place that is for the MeeGo device); and that it was going to be announced as part of that.
All in all, I am glad the MeeGo device is stil in hiding.
Last edited by rpgAmazon; 2010-04-30 at 21:04.
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