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In that regard, my $0.02: Nokia had a rough 2009 with layoff(s), cutback(s), and reorganization(s). They are slipping as a company and they know it. What resources they have left are focused on Symbian^3 and Maemo 6/MeeGo; consequently, that means they have very limited resources remaining on hand to support the various Symbian flavors (i.e. S60, S40, etc) and Maemo flavors.

We all believe Nokia has made some poor decisions in the past and we all believe they are making poor decisions now -- they were caught with their pants down by Apple and it seemed Nokia was resting on their laurels. Unfortunately, like being an armchair POTUS, we only have a tiny window into this global cellphone manufacturer. We don't really know or understand what really goes on behind the doors.

I'd hate to use this comparison, but if Apple had nearly the number of phones (legacy and new models) as well as markets as Nokia has, then the playing field would be a bit more level. It seems to me that Apple's business model is to take an existing idea, rethink it, continue to develop it and release it when it is [near] perfect. Unfortunately, it seems that Nokia will have a new idea and attempt to be first to market with it. Whether or not adequate testing was performed -- well, it may seem that way, but again, we don't know the circumstances of what goes on behind the doors.

If I had an issue with my N900 that caused me to lose productivity (i.e. phone drops calls every couple of minutes or something) and I knew that PR1.2 fixed that issue, then I would certainly lose patience. Like I said, we know that PR1.2 is coming. I think that is better than knowing that PR1.2 is not coming.

Sorry... I'm rambling...

- mp

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Good rant !
 
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i've been shopping for androids and they have caught up with nearly everything. But they still lack full flash and many people say it will be only the nexus that gets it before xmas.

Flash is an important feature for me. The n900 will always be the most perfect phone I was ever dissapointed in... sniff

I love it i have had nokias since 1987, so trust me when i say, i am moving on reluctantly when i find the right android for me.
 
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Google has rolled out Froyo - Android 2.2 to their own device first. Yes, you got it right, ENGADGET has reported nexus one (Pre-release) getting 2.2 before the expected release. Flash 10.1 is there

Impatient users can download the offline update from XDA forum.
 
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With Android the Nexus One will get updates first (it's Google's own platform). With everything else it's dependent on your carrier (if you don't do it yourself with leaked versions or ROMs).
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I gotta say i'm not a 'disappointed buyer' , but i am a disappointed user mainly due to this whole PR1.2 fiasco. There should be a "maemo time" wiki page just like there is a "valve time".

Agreed 100% that the update needs to be stable. But if it takes so long to stabilize an update, aren't the stability of the core platform and maintenance strategy to be questionned ? Maybe PR1.2 just contained too much and should have been broken down..

What's worrying for me is that if meego is to be the evolution of the maemo platform, will it inherit this nasty development / maintenance cycle ?

Anyways, to get back on android 2.2, i have to say bravo to Google to announcing availability in the "coming weeks" and actually releasing an OTA update only a few days later. Surprises like that always please tech peeps like us.
The main stability issues, afaik, come from trying to implement things you asked for.
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Originally Posted by xomm View Post
The main stability issues, afaik, come from trying to implement things you asked for.
Interesting; I wonder what you mean? We know that PR1.2 was frozen a long time ago. What IS taking so long? Could it be that the best developers are focused on MeeGo and the ones left behind are over their heads?

By the way, to switch topics quickly, why is the leaked PR1.2 unstable enough to warn people, yet the Hong Kong release isn't? We have someone here from Hong Kong and he hasn't mentioned unstability problems.
 
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#38
This all conjecture from me, but Nokia has an office in Beijing. Perhaps some Maemo development is occurring there and by releasing to that region first, it may be easier to test and react to issues. *shrug*

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what is PR1.2?? is it like some kind of crazy rumor about nokia looking after their clients before their warranties run out??
 
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