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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by slender
Hmm... okay, it is only a small first try, but I filled a Bug report about this issue. We can't fix everything at once so I guess we have to start with one of the important parts: RESOLVED / MOVED Bug Reports are stucking in the Brainstorm system
Helmuth,
Actually first things what I criticized here in MAEMO.org was that brainstorm is basically just venting channel that is 60% ready :| Like playground for all hippies to hold hands. But still there is some things that have evolved from there but itīs only small percentage. Voting there is always good thing to do.
When i think about it IIRC I have criticized all stuff here starting from design and layout of wiki and talk.maemo but lately i have just gave up. Itīs just weird to suggest something like "how about if we put brakes in to this bicycle here" and really try to hold your laugh at same time and have really deep discussion why,how,when and then total silence..meh. This is what it is, boiling place for procrastinators who have actually really great ideas but we do not have enough doers. Me included :|
Please feel free to vote and comment if you have something useful to get this fixed. Normal discussions please only at talk.maemo.org.
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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by Frappacino
Look at Nokia's stock price, they are being severely punished right now. The problem is, they are not showing any signs of "change".
hey i am not a fanboy far from it - I think Nokia should reap the consequences of its actions and get punished in the marketplace severey - which will happen when ppl do not buy their phones.
(same price as Sept 1998)
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=N...l=NOK;range=my
If the N8 is not up to par (GUI experience which doesn't crash or lag and easy to use, decent battery, usable Nokia apps)... then it would seem they need MORE punishment before they get the message.
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2010-06-15
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#34
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All your n900 dreams will come true when PR 1.3 is released. Stay tuned!
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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by NokTokDaddy
Yes, it's true that this is not their fault.
These people bought their N900'S in Good Faith because they regarded Nokia as a trusted brand.
The fact that they 'bought the wrong phone may be true, but is NOT their fault - it's Nokia's.
But you and they need to accept the fact, that they cannot expect prompt support from Nokia. Period.
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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by Dave999
I've been a huge Nokia fan since the 90s. I waited for the N900 in the face of the iPhone and Android devices.
All your n900 dreams will come true when PR 1.3 is released. Stay tuned!
In my opinion, Nokia has bigger problems than fixing the N900. The are "six of six" in the smartphone marketplace right now and falling quickly. The N8 is likely to die on the vine the same way that the N900 did. I wouldn't hold your breath for any further support of significance with the N900. They seem to be pinning reentry of the market on the N8 amd N9, both of which, as far as I know, are "Symbian" platforms. Even the Nokia people acknowledge that they've lost it, and it won't be until 2011 that they have OS parity -- which won't be Maemo.
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Only Nokia since 1995 -- But I've lost the faith in the last year.
Alas, why I'll likely never recommend the N900 to my friends
Non-nerd apps; USB charging - generic and reliable; Distinctive ring tones; GPS failure to lock; Competitive "maps" application; Supported MMS, iSync, Bluetooth
(The feeble FM transmitter bugs me too)
Only Nokia since 1995 -- But I've lost the faith in the last year.
Alas, why I'll likely never recommend the N900 to my friends
Non-nerd apps; USB charging - generic and reliable; Distinctive ring tones; GPS failure to lock; Competitive "maps" application; Supported MMS, iSync, Bluetooth
(The feeble FM transmitter bugs me too)
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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by smoku
I myself expected long term support.
Yes, it's true that this is not their fault.
But you and they need to accept the fact, that they cannot expect prompt support from Nokia. Period.
Not fixed in Harmattan targets from the early beginning and let the users alone with the Bugs. "live with it or buy someting different" - Is this really the solution?
We have to wait for Harmattan, buy new devices to get some of the N900 software fails fixed and after this step 5 of 5 we get a new thing called (the real) Meego.
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2010-06-15
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To me, it seems that Nokia has taken what's great from the OSS side and tries to make a perverted version of open source OS that's only useful for single device. This is completely against the OSS tradition and that's a big part of what's (silently) surprising everyone.
Granted the non-locking *nixes were due to the open x86 lineage, but it's a big part of linux's tradition that even Android seems to keep. Well they try to anyway. So much more than what's Nokia's doing on that end.
Yes, we can quote many current technicalities, legalities and formalities that are in place that restricts the free flow of the OS; but seriously, if Nokia really put this as one of their core design elements, than this restriction wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
This restriction is here by design.
Granted the non-locking *nixes were due to the open x86 lineage, but it's a big part of linux's tradition that even Android seems to keep. Well they try to anyway. So much more than what's Nokia's doing on that end.
Yes, we can quote many current technicalities, legalities and formalities that are in place that restricts the free flow of the OS; but seriously, if Nokia really put this as one of their core design elements, than this restriction wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
This restriction is here by design.
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2010-06-15
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everyone has their time........Nokia once on the throne for the leading smartphones, maybe now, its Apple's time. but that does not mean its the end for nokia......i believe.
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2010-06-15
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Originally Posted by Frappacino
shut up with the you bought the wrong phone, even with some research you would expect some support for this great device but not none.
You bought the wrong phone - if you want prompt support/fixes get a Droid or Apple.
Prompt fixes/patches are best viewed as a bonus on the N900 rather then a part of the service. Community support works on a volunteer basis so you cannot "expect" anything to get done within a specific timeframe.
If you expect support, SELL your phone and get one (Apple or Droid) that suits your needs better.
I'm talking about such things like Devices with Touchscreen that unlocks itself in the pocket and no autoexposure lock on half-press of camera button.
They desinged it like they want and begin to think about it from the early beginning without looking how this works on other Devices. Nokia has many experience with mobile phones. Why not ask before do the same mistakes again?
Nokia had the same unlock problem at the Nokia 5800 and as far as I know at their N97. They finetuned a lot at the proximity sensor of the 5800 and in the end they gave up and implemented slide to answer as every other manufacturer does. But before they fixed it they said a long time "it works just fine, you are to stupid to use it" - and now we got THE SAME discussion on the N900 again and frighteningly also the finetuning at the proximity sensor.
The sensor works fine to lock the device during the call. For this it is designed. For this it works as expected. But it doesn't work when you have to pull it somewhere out to answer a call.
And for the autoexposure lock I linked above, the programmer has obviously no experience using a normal camera or at exampe a Nokia N95. No problem at all! But when he doesn't know he should ask one from the symbian team or test it before how it should work.