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#31
Originally Posted by slha89 View Post
*lol* if it is slow, than it can be called crap or a study. Nothing is more awful than if a mobile device feels slow.
Just because YOU cannot appreciate that a slow solution is better than no solution doesn't warrant you calling other people's hard work "crap". Especially not in reply to someone THANKING the developer for providing that solution, which is quite the clear evidence that other people DO appreciate it.
 

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I bought it to feed the 'Hacker' in me. Never in my life I have seen so many hardware controls exposed in the OS for a production mobile phone. Tweaking stuffs like Overclocking, Undervolting, Optimizing swap space, 3color LED, etc really is part of the ownership experience with this device

Hoping for many more open devices in the future from Nokia or elsewhere.
 

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Originally Posted by Nathraiben View Post
Might want to check eBay and the like - thanks to Nokia's osbourning tactics, people are trying to get rid of their N900 like crazy right now.
Yep, I just recently bought one for $325 and gave it away -- I still have my N900.

I'm a veteran of the N800 and N810 -- to me, being able to make an occasional phone call is a cool bonus, but I usually use Skype for that. If I break down someday I'll be happy to use the N900 to call a tow truck. Otherwise, the N900 is about the most inexpensive phone I could have, considering I'm mostly at home using WiFi and use a Tmobile prepaid plan. My total expenditure per month is about $10. All you people with your iPhones and Droids -- can you use them for $10 a month?
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Well for the iPhone you could. You have to buy it unlocked then put in the same TMobile pre-paid SIM. An unlocked iPhone 4 is around $700+. You could also just buy an older iPhone.

Anyway it seems to me that Nokia would've saved money from the backlash of user opinion had they only sold N900s to people who fully understood its roots and what they were getting lol.
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Originally Posted by slha89 View Post
*lol* if it is slow, than it can be called crap or a study. Nothing is more awful than if a mobile device feels slow.
Not really. My comment was a qualifier. I am impressed that Stellarium ran at all. My Netbook runs it OK under ubuntu - but with XP it is hopeless. My Compaq celeron runs it OK, and it onlt 'flies' on W7 on a dual-core with 4GB RAM. So, yes, that it can get up and running at all is impressive - to me. Stars and planets move relatively slowly, and telescopes take a while to set up, so speed is not the essence. However, I doubt I'll be trying to see if I can load the telescope control software into Stellarium on the n900, as it would be unrealistic to expect all of that to work. But, it would make like much simpler if I could control my scope from the n900 than have to connect it to a laptop and then connect an IR-paddle to the laptop via a usb dongle to control it with. It would eliminate one set of wires and usb connections.

Iceweasel takes a bit to load - but I'd expect a PC application written for an appx standard of 1.6 cpu + 2GB RAM to struggle a bit on a 0.6 cpu + 1/4GB (+3/4GB swap) RAM. to take its time. It doesn't mean it is crap, although I agree that running Stellarium is just for interest; but Iceweasel, Icedove, Open Office word, spreadhseet and presentation manager are quite handy things to have access to if you need them.

I'm sure that taking an n900 out of your pocket wherever you are, & firing up the Debian application you want to use, is quicker than finding somewhere to get out your laptop/netbook, boot it up, then open up the application you want. It might not be as quick as loading a cut-down browser, or word processor, or e-mail client on some smartphone - but hey - if I'm in a hurry I have those in Maemo as well...

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#36
You are so very, very, very, VERY repetitive and boring. Please, stop.

Originally Posted by crown77 View Post
so nice that you all get high by your Debian installations but what about People that buyed the N900 as a Phone as it was sold from Nokia.
Why on earth should I, or anyone else who is not a Nokia employee, care about your purchases? Why?! Please, explain this because I really fail to see the point in your rants.

If you have a question of a technical nature, I'll at least see if I can answer it.

Sure you can put a Linux Derivat on it wow i own 3 Laptops and 2 Pcs thx why should i do this with my N900?
You have enough money to buy 3 laptops and 2 PCs and still you complain about one purchase that you're not satisfied with? What's wrong with that picture?

And to answer your question: Because we can! Because it's fun! Because it's interesting from a technical point of view. What more reasons do you need?

That is the Point i dont understand we all did buyed a Phone from Nokia and when somebody comes here and does write this all say no man you buyed the wrong device..
No, you did your purchase with your assumptions, expectations and hopes, and I did my purchase with mine.

And if you're not happy, you did buy the wrong device. How hard is it to understand this? It sucks to pay money for something you're not happy with, but that's life. Suck it up and move on.

They say you have to get more information before but back in December 2009 when i was buy my N900 Phone there was no Information about that it will be a buggy experimental Device with a least 4 Updates to PR 1.2 (Pre Release?) and less than basic phone functions.
On your five computers, how many security updates have you installed in the same time due to bugs that were in the OS that you installed? Updates isn't the same as saying "This is buggy crap!", updates are normal procedure.

Regarding functionality: This was publicly available.

And Threads like this are makeing me sad why People are so blind and still playing with debian on a small screen ..did you really bought the N900 for this.. did you never used it as a Phone?
Please, be careful with projecting your own sad feelings of technical ineptitude on the rest of us. I bought this phone to be able to hack as much as possible while at the same time have something in my pocket that can receive and make calls. The N900 fits the bill perfectly.
 

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I am failing to understand why people think that android/iphone is such a better phone. Except for the low amount of apps (which should of been obvious to anyone going to buy a phone from a brand new platform that hasn't historically had any apps - not that I wasn't disappointed with OVI's lack of delivery), it pretty much matches up to most other smart phones. Yes, there are missing features, but for every missing feature you will have a feature that it has that others don't.

For example, people complaining about the lack of contact grouping (something I actually do sorely miss), it had builtin skype support and facebook (and others) IM support long before any other phone did. Could you chat in the background with a skype contact in Iphone 3gs?

The mail client is terrible, but the mail client on android pre-2.0 was atrocious, and on iphone 3gs I used it on a friends device and it was worse as well. The only place I saw better support was the E-series symbian devices.

The video player sometimes has stuttering problems, but support any format under the sun for any 'legally gotten' tv shows. Except for mkv I have yet to see a format it doesn't support (once you install the extra codecs package obviously).

While Nokia's behavior is far from perfect and leaves a lot to be desired (like flash, poor communication regarding meego, OVI Store, etc...), the fact that we are still getting updates and we will get PR1.3 really is very different then almost every android phone which has to resort to modding. (and for those complaining on why there are more mods for android then n900, well that isn't really nokia's fault, but that was expected from a 1 device first time platform).

And lots more, I think people are taking this whole thing way too far. Some people enjoy their n900, some less, some are happy despite its faults, and some are missing a certain feature badly that happens to exist on another phone yet lacked to read reviews if the n900 had the feature before buying..
 
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So i did know when i will write this Comment that i wont get love back for it. At frist my Laptops and PCs are from Work and not Private exept one PC.

Its interesting that the Marketing of the N900 seems to be Different in USA and Germany i actually looked at the German Nokia Page and they say now that its the "best" from 2 Worlds Mobile Phone and Mobile Computer. Why they still do this i mean if they would sell it as a Mobile Computer and say and also its possible to make a Phone Call with it then okay but they still sell it as Smartphone too.

I fear about my Question about Threads before Dec 2009 i never will get an answer becouse at this time there was no Information about step 4 of 5 and all that.

Dont get me wrong iam not a noob user too i tryed the Maemo5 Linux SDK at the Day when it was out and talked with Nokia Technicans at the IRC about it. I was also impressed by Maemo5 at this Time the Problem was the Main Part for me the Mobile Phone wasnt able to test in the SDK.

But at this Time i tought i know Nokia they have one of the best Phone Softwares perfect UI , All those features i know from my e51 wich i owned at this Time. I asked myself how they can top this now.

After i was get my N900 i lived with those Bugs for a while and also i did Open Bugs in Bugzilla and did discuss about the possible Errors and so one. I really was happy a big Community a really good vibe at the Forum.

But then after all those Bad News about Maemo the waiting for PR1.2 wich includes still a lot of bugs for me, and the Bugs i saw wich never will be fixed i lost my trust in this Project.

I put now my hope into Meego but since the N900 only did get a Code Drop and the main Development is for Moorstone Intel i wont spend too much hope into it.
 
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Interesting, have we been to the same German Nokia page for the N900? All I can see here is lots of talk about how much power it has, how it runs Linux, is Open Source, is ushering in a new era of mobile computing. Actually, the word "Linux" is more often used than on any distribution's website...

The only reference to the phone functionality is found under "more characteristics", where the contact list is discussed in detail. So care to point me to the part that describes the N900 as a smartphone?

And that website hasn't been changes since the day I first started taking an interest in this device.

Also, if you're not a noob user and took a lot of time to get familiar with this device - how the heck did you not come to the realisation that this device is meant to "playing with debian on a small screen"? Guess it's not us happy users who are blind...
 
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I agree that we're unlikely to see anything like this again, I really wonder what's going to replace my N900.

To update an N900's hardware back to bleeding edge status, it would just need an updated CPU (Qualcomm Snapdragon/Samsung Hummingbird/ARM A4), more RAM, a higher-res screen, digital compass and maybe a WiMAX adapter. Also I'm starting to see LiPo batteries mainstream consumer products these days, so that might be a possibility. I really hope to see an update to the hardware in the future.
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