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Joorin is offline Joorin
2010-07-18 , 12:28
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#31
Originally Posted by rizwan View Post
So you are saying that the ideal usage of N900 is to just stick to tablet functionality and have another device to be used as a phone?
No. If you actually read what I wrote, I wrote that if you want to use it as a phone you need to keep in mind that phone functionality has been slapped onto it. That's something else. If you expect it to be as good as a phone as a smart phone, your expectations are not in synch with reality.

I dont want to start this pointless argument but if it takes a sim card, makes calls, and txt msgs then it's a phone. That's my opinion and others dont have to agree with it.
I respect your opinion but I also think you're making a mistake in your reasoning.

To put it into perspective, think about some of them tacky promotion products that are out there. One of them is a stationary phone which, if you lift the receiver, also can be used as a small piano.

With your reasoning, that piano should sound like a Steinway just because you can play on it. That's flawed reasoning.
 

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2010-07-18 , 13:49
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#32
If you think a product is too expensive, you don't buy it. Simple as that.
Come on, a product can be overpriced, whether you buy it or not. It's a qualitative not a quantitative thing.

I have no idea. I didn't spend my time looking at the glossy advertising material, I spent it looking at what would be shipped in the device in terms of hardware and design choices.
Really? In that case you would have thought you were buying a regular smartphone.

It's a good size for a tablet that would fit in my pocket.
No it isn't. Look at the Hd2 or even the Archos 5 Android.

It fits in my pocket and I get a QWERTY keyboard. I can replace the battery and insert a MicroSD card. I'm satisfied.
For something that is 19.55mm wide at its thickest point, qwerty or not and ideally needs a mugen at 25mm, is pretty chunky for 2010. Trust me.

Are there no Flash upgrades? If you're talking about Flash 10, that's something else.
Yeap, I meant Flash 10.1 for an internet tablet.

It seems all these answers are "because I can live with it", which is fine but not necessarily healthy.
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2010-07-18 , 13:59
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#33
Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
Come on, a product can be overpriced, whether you buy it or not. It's a qualitative not a quantitative thing.

Really? In that case you would have thought you were buying a regular smartphone.
That's completely the opposite of what he was trying to say. Most of us that have been in the community longer than the N900 knew what it was better than any advertisement. I didn't watch any N900 adverts until people started b*tching on here about Nokia doing false advertising.

Which is rubbish.

We all knew what to expect, we all knew what the term "Internet Tablet" meant, it meant that it was a prototype/stage device that Nokia have been developing for the past 4 years.

Anyone that read up about that would have known it. Though, for some reason, some people think the word "Internet Tablet" is synonymous with "Smartphone" ...

But you can guarantee, as soon as this product line comes out with the proper consumer device, it will be called something else. And yes, it will have the word "phone" in it ...
 
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2010-07-18 , 14:03
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So, the only answer to the OP's issues offered up in this thread that might actually help him is to reflash, right?
 
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2010-07-18 , 14:05
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That's completely the opposite of what he was trying to say. Most of us that have been in the community longer than the N900 knew what it was better than any advertisement. I didn't watch any N900 adverts until people started b*tching on here about Nokia doing false advertising.

Which is rubbish.

We all knew what to expect, we all knew what the term "Internet Tablet" meant, it meant that it was a prototype/stage device that Nokia have been developing for the past 4 years.
n900 and n97 can easily confuse a customer if you ask me.

And I knew exactly what he was saying but I chose to rip him for his smugness as the hardware specs are exactly that of a smartphone. Its not all about what you know and this community when it comes to the n900.

if it was then, the device should have had a developer/Maemo.org only purchase route.
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Joorin is offline Joorin
2010-07-18 , 14:21
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Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
Come on, a product can be overpriced, whether you buy it or not. It's a qualitative not a quantitative thing.
If you're only talking about comparing products and not connecting it to what you actually do, as in purchasing something, I totally agree. If I misinterpreted your question, my bad.

My favourite personal example are jeans. They are made in the same Chinese factories by the same people but the ones with a "hip" pattern on the *** are sold for five times the price of the others.

Really? In that case you would have thought you were buying a regular smartphone.
Your time travelling and mind reading capabilities aside, I did not.

I got to pick either an iPhone, some Symbian or Android device or an N900 and I picked the latter since it, as far as I could tell, would offer the most hacker value. So far, I seem to be correct.

After getting the device and having spent some time here and having had a look at some actual smart phones, it was, to me at least, obvious that this was an internet tablet with phone functionality slapped onto it.

No it isn't. Look at the Hd2 or even the Archos 5 Android.
I haven't had a look at those devices. Thank you for the suggestion.

For something that is 19.55mm wide at its thickest point, qwerty or not and ideally needs a mugen at 25mm, is pretty chunky for 2010. Trust me.
Isn't that just a matter of preference? Perhaps I'm not a typical gadget user since I don't spend time comparing my device to others. Or I'm just used to "chunky technology", not caring very much about the form factor as long as the rest is good enough.

It seems all these answers are "because I can live with it", which is fine but not necessarily healthy.
I actively picked this device over others. Had I not gotten the kind of discount that I got, I wouldn't have bought it (or any of the others). If that equates to "because I can live with it", so be it.

It always comes down to a compromise. I opted for high hacker value and got a less blingy device. How compromise can be unhealthy is not really clear to me unless the compromise leaves me getting less than I should, but then it's no longer a compromise.
 
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2010-07-18 , 14:25
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Originally Posted by Venemo View Post
Seriously, WHY?

Why doesn't the tens of already existing threads good enough for your moaning?
Exactly my point of view. I just don't see the point why everybody who has tiny itsy bitsy complaints about this device (sorry all you mention here is just whining for me) feels compelled to open up another hate/rant/moan/whine thread instead of just using on of the quadrillion threads already on TMO.

why? first of all if you post into another post with similar issues there might be a higher chance some of the devs will notice it. if everybody brews his own whine soup it will not change a god damn thing.

second of all it will help to un-clutter the forum so it will be a cleaner and better experience for newcomers on TMO

and third but not last I had enough with that "me too" ******** where everybody feels he just has the right to write up his nonsense in his own whiny thread.

would be nice to see people change their negative attitude once in a while, because if those rant threads would be written with a focus on what is wrong with the individuals phone/tablet I'd be more compelled to help them out, but people stick to those useless rant threads I will not move a finger to help them.
 

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