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#31
Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
Yet again the posts come out saying "Did you not do your research?" I did research and no where at the time did it state that it doesn't do MMS, that it requires a reboot once a day because the SIM card is forgotten and I am missing important business calls because I don't check hourly to see the little missing sim card icon....
Excuse me but WTF? Do you really think that your device is working properly? Why the h-e-l-l you havenīt taken it back to shop and claimed warranty. Also worth of testing is to change sim card to new. These were just wiiiiild ideas that came up to my mind after reading first sentences of your post.

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#32
Originally Posted by AlMehdi View Post
After 6 month you should have thought your self the device a lot better.
Well perhaps but I have a lot of other things to do maybe unlike some people.

I expect a product that is sold as a phone to be useable as a phone at least. I accept that in the details there will be customisation but I don't have the time to read the reams of no doubt useful information posted by some very helpful folk because Nokia have not bothered to get it right in the first place.

If Maemo was not ready then the phone should not have been released. End of. The rush to market of imperfect goods is a sure way to get a bad reputation with the majority of users.

As posted earlier by gerbick, if you take a vote on this forum everything in the garden smells lovely. That is not a proper poll and there is no point in suggesting that the customer is always wrong/stupid/illiterate/lazy or whatever.

It's the customer who is paying the bill and Meamo fans should understand that theirs is not the only point of view.
 
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Originally Posted by msa View Post
obviously the haters jumped on this thread already and started hating instead of answering the given question.



why are so many people in this forum giving "its a real computer" as an excuse for all those flawed elements of the n900?
thats like saying "i know i can die from an car-crash in a dacia when driving 50 km/h, but its ok since its a dacia". no, its not ok!
As another poster said (somehow):
why did you think that a Dacia will save you in a car-crash at 50km/h at all?
Why didn't you research, what the Dacia is capable of?
And if you made research before buy: why is it that your research failed in that way?
Why did you even buy 2 Dacia?
Are you sure that your next buy won't disappoint you too?
 
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Originally Posted by Loggy1948 View Post
It's the customer who is paying the bill and Meamo fans should understand that theirs is not the only point of view.
And you are on agenda to make your point to these maemo fans that do not understand what you as customer want from your device?




How about reality check? First I think that most of people here know what should be corrected on N900. Look maemo bugzilla and threads around here. Now you look like one of disappointed customers who come here on explaining why they feel disappointed. And you need some support from fellow monkeys to tap your shoulder and nod with your grievances. Nobody here cares too much on your grievances.

Ask for help in specific cases but if you are not happy with n900 then I would advice to try to take contact Nokia (as it looks like you have done on nokia discussions)
 

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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
Yet again the posts come out saying "Did you not do your research?" I did research and no where at the time did it state that it doesn't do MMS
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Sorry but that is plain wrong.

Internet is full (!) of sites telling that N900 does not do MMS.

This was one point that I found out first during my research.
But since I never used MMS in 10 years of mobile use, I do not need it.

When reading postings like yours I really question the method
of research of some people...
 

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Originally Posted by msa View Post
why are so many people in this forum giving "its a real computer" as an excuse for all those flawed elements of the n900?
thats like saying "i know i can die from an car-crash in a dacia when driving 50 km/h, but its ok since its a dacia". no, its not ok!
actually the only os that has flawed elements is iOS. Lack of modifications to stock iconco hell available and need for tap an icon for every check (email, calendar, weather, facebook, ...)

and yes, this is an opinion so there isn't one absolutely correct way to do things with mobile ui.
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Please explain how the GUI and phone functions are "unuseable". I must not be "using" it right.
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Apart from checking my post to the Nokia Discussions list, simply by having white but sometimes grey text on dark background or blue on grey makes it very difficult to read, particularly in low light but also in bright sunlight. If you don't like to talk about iPhones - which sure have their problems - consider the useability of the Amazon Kindle or Apple iPad or (K)ubuntu Liinux or many other geekish gadgets which are actually a pleasure to use even if they have their technical limitations (well not Kubuntu as far as I have found). Even MS WIndows considers the users. Nokia haven't.

In addition the default skins are messy random patterns. The so-called black and white skin is an awful smudge which ends up on some screens with white being at the top so you can't read what network provider (if roaming) or whether your wifi is connected because white on white is even harder to read. ISTR that is true of another skin but I can't remember which.

Any design student could have told Nokia and almost all other phones that I have seen recently are black script on a white background with minimal use of colour.

I expect the basic functions to work - which they do - and be useable - which they aren't. I don't expect to have to trawl through the download offerings of skins on various websites to get a basic setting that was available on my old Motorola V9 by default.

I could waste everyone's time but mainly my own by writing a long critique function by function from a design point of view but if you don't get it now, you never will. Clearly the majority of people on this list don't, which is curious considering it is a list about alternative systems to or on Maemo.

In the end, It is the useability issue on what is a potentially excellent device which is galling. Spoilt for a ha'pth of tar you might say.

Nokia need to pull their socks up. If there was a fully functioning alternative system available I would install it now but as Nokia have followed Apple's lead in making certain parts of the phone proprietory, I doubt this will happen in the short term, by which time my contract will have run out and I will chuck the n900s away and get something which is truly open source so I can be more confident that there will be maintenance or support. I did complain many moons ago to Nokia but was met by a deathly silence.
 
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So far your main complaint seems to be the theme you are using. The theme couldn't be easier to change - check out the many great themes created by D-livil in Extras.

As far as basic functions being "unuseable" - well, you need to point out specifics. There is a fix/workaround for pretty much every issue under the sun.

Any design student could have told Nokia and almost all other phones that I have seen recently are black script on a white background with minimal use of colour.
wtf? examples please.

Clearly the majority of people on this list don't, which is curious considering it is a list about alternative systems to or on Maemo.
yes, we clearly know nothing about design because we like the GUI of Maemo.

Nokia have followed Apple's lead in making certain parts of the phone proprietory,
Meego uses Ofono, which is completely open source. Incidentally, this has made GSM/3g possible on Nitdroid as well.

I doubt this will happen in the short term, by which time my contract will have run out and I will chuck the n900s away and get something which is truly open source so I can be more confident that there will be maintenance or support.
What does OSS have to do with maintenance and support? Either the OEM supports and maintains a device or they do not. True, community support is more robust for an open source device but the community is not the issue here. Btw, what is "truly open source"? Maemo/Meego is as open as it gets at the moment...
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Thought I agree that this is rather challenging device, has itīs own dents and surely not for everyone I think that we have pretty much classic case of user error.

At least you sound pretty angry as your own "simple" "all-known" needs are not fulfilled. You make lot of noise but fail to really show us why issues what you are having are issues that also other people should be interested.

You complain to Nokia and waited then what? Give feedback and change device if it doesnīt fir your needs life is too short.

To make it short. Do not use N900. Itīs not for you. Buy Samsung S or iPhone and test how it fits your needs. Good luck. This is wrong place for this kind of discussion.
 

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