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2011-07-21
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#32
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Originally Posted by vi_
What support exactly do you want? any HTC device I have owned (or that people I know have owned) did not have more than 3 major firmware updates or more than 1 year support. Cannot says for devices before, they did not have any at that time.
ORLY?
N900 - supported at the time and the penultimate step towards the future of nokia. 8 months later, ABANDONED.
N9 - A publicly denounced meeto. 8 seconds later, ABANDONED.
Do you HONESTLY believe that this thing will get support? Really? REALLY? What is wrong with you people?
Even the oh-so-supported iphone get 1 major update after one year, and part of a second one after two.
Cannot tell for you, but most people don't buy devices for what they will do in 2 years time (in that case it's just much cheaper to buy 2 years old devices). If the N9 lacks "must have" features for you at 3 months after launch, DONT BUY IT. If it doesn't, buy it if you like it AS IT IS.
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2011-07-21
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#33
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Originally Posted by jo21
like i said before, what will be will be
i dont believe symbian its gotta survive after 2012.
the old molly may still have more juice in her then, e.g., the crappy barge it has to howl, now. iPotatos may be popular for those who can afford it or the not quite so cheap plans that usually come w/ it, but for those who have to pay for a "smart phone", Symbian devices may turn out to be the only alternative, if Android gets derailed (either by m$ or by Oracle with the Java licensing claims or both).
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thanks for n900 hildon-desktop its open source. community was able to save it.
fail to see how portrait vs. landscape changes that, alas
personally, i'd rather try... the combination top right
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2011-07-21
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#34
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Originally Posted by erendorn
that rather defeats the point of a coding competition, now, doesn't it?
[...] buy it if you like it AS IT IS.
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2011-07-21
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#35
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Originally Posted by misterc
Not quite, especially if you count all major Maemo updates released by Nokia, including Hacker Editions:
...Maemo release policy is limited to one version per device (except for the 770, which had two).
- 770: OS2005, OS2006, OS2007HE, OS2008HE
- N800: OS2007, OS2008, OS2008.1
- N810: OS2008, OS2008.1
- N900: Maemo 5
Clearly, Nokia had to do something to switch away from Maemo. Otherwise, following the trend line, they would have been required to release the N900's successor with no OS at all.
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2011-07-21
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Agree with erendorn. Before the N900, I had the HTC Hero. Well, I was still waiting for that hallowed 1.6 update by the time that Google had released 2.1 (I think). Unless you have a Nexus, an android device has a software life cycle of about a year, a year and a half tops. You might be able to extend this with cooked roms... if the device has an open bootloader.
On the other hand, there is software continuity, and guaranteed compatibility with other android handsets. You can buy another, more modern android device when your current one gets a bit creaky, and purchased software will just run. That is a huge leg up compared to Maemo, with its quirky (to put it gently) history regarding compatibility between different versions.
I hope that the API compatibility with Meego proper, the rpm packaging and Qt will alleviate the dearth of applications. It is a big bummer to me that this is maemo harmattan and not real meego. I consider that its biggest flaw, and the only thing that makes me have second thoughts about buying the phone.
The fact remains, though, that it appears to be a very competent OS and won't need many apps to plug feature holes of the OS itself. Out of the box, it supports office, IM'ing, has an excellent map application, a very good browser with more alternatives to come, and an e-mail app that works for a change. It does 95% of what I NEED a phone/pda to do as is. For the missing 5%, I'm willing to wait for the appz of find workarounds. And, when it comes to what I WANT to do with a phone/ pda/ pocket computer, which is to mess with it... well, it IS open source.
On the other hand, there is software continuity, and guaranteed compatibility with other android handsets. You can buy another, more modern android device when your current one gets a bit creaky, and purchased software will just run. That is a huge leg up compared to Maemo, with its quirky (to put it gently) history regarding compatibility between different versions.
I hope that the API compatibility with Meego proper, the rpm packaging and Qt will alleviate the dearth of applications. It is a big bummer to me that this is maemo harmattan and not real meego. I consider that its biggest flaw, and the only thing that makes me have second thoughts about buying the phone.
The fact remains, though, that it appears to be a very competent OS and won't need many apps to plug feature holes of the OS itself. Out of the box, it supports office, IM'ing, has an excellent map application, a very good browser with more alternatives to come, and an e-mail app that works for a change. It does 95% of what I NEED a phone/pda to do as is. For the missing 5%, I'm willing to wait for the appz of find workarounds. And, when it comes to what I WANT to do with a phone/ pda/ pocket computer, which is to mess with it... well, it IS open source.
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2011-07-21
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#37
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Originally Posted by misterc
What a load of drivel.
if you are refering to the portrait feature, honestly... tried it and don't see the point. the limitation of the N900 as a mobile phone comes from the lack of physical keys to dial (SMS, message, aso.) blindly.
fail to see how portrait vs. landscape changes that, alas
personally, i'd rather try... the combination top right
I will just point you to the most sold martphone in the known universe and beyond (I am referring the fruit company of course) and its numerous hardware buttons or the lack there of.
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2011-07-21
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#38
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Originally Posted by stlpaul
contribute to N900CE(means most of Harmattan) or shut up.
Hopefully all of Nokia's preaching about Qt easily bringing apps to all platforms will mean they're more than willing to share the new and updated Harmattan apps with N900 users.
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2011-07-21
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#39
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Originally Posted by vi_
Why are you and other similar even bother to whine!? Go get your androids instead or contribute to N900CE or get out of here.
Not jealous, annoyed. Your all treating this thing like it's a god-damned Jesus phone that will end cancer and ascend mankind to the gods.
It's not.
It is a dead, end of line abortion. An inkling of what the team behind the N900 were trying to create before they were buttfvcked and force to design the equally pointless N9.
Don't you get it? The N9 HAS NO FUTURE. The N950 HAS NO FUTURE. There will be no firmware updates and almost certainly no 'appz'. Everything that sucks about the N900 (see lack of support) this thing will embody. N9^N900 suck.
And now the creme de la crap, the steamer on the cake, the most talented of the maemo developers have been given a 'loan' of one so they can port programs that no one can use to a platform that apparently only 250 of exist.
It is not like this thing even runs meego with a tiny possibility of a future, it runs 'harmattan'. An absolute 1 way, council estate cul de sac of an OS. Further more it is not even the same hardware as this N9 so fvck knows what good it will be for 'porting appz'.
While I accepted the follow device would be the final nail in the coffin for the N900, I never guessed the final nail would have the functional equivalent of a dildo in an orphanage.
Thank you.
There is no ****ing thread in this forum where someone can say something positive. In five seconds its full of garbage, whiners and trolls.
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2011-07-21
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Originally Posted by misterc
I just tried to dial blindly with my (very) old phone with keys.
the limitation of the N900 as a mobile phone comes from the lack of physical keys to dial (SMS, message, aso.) blindly.
fail to see how portrait vs. landscape changes that, alas
You can only do it if you know where the keys are situated.
Are you sure that this is an issue?
And btw: all so called smartphones that only have a screen
have this issue: you won't be able to dial blind.
n8 gets belle thats biggest update nokia will be do.
thanks for n900 hildon-desktop its open source. community was able to save it.