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patlak is offline patlak
2011-10-23 , 18:37
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#31
Originally Posted by Larswad View Post
Yes, it is a SoC, thanks for pointing that out (no irony intended), but I am simply comparing performance and value for money and if you look at that you can see that you can find both cpu and gpu better than in the n9.
GPU and CPU are of course different in what they do, even if the are integrated on the same chip.
The phone is buttery smooth. Why do you whip your brain with unnecessary thoughts. Any phone will get outdated. Aren't quad cores releasing in two months? If you like it, buy it. If not, you know what to do. This phone is a rarity, it has everything out of the box and it's worth it for the price. Lots of people bought them at that price.
 
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2011-10-23 , 19:11
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Originally Posted by patlak View Post
The phone is buttery smooth. Why do you whip your brain with unnecessary thoughts. Any phone will get outdated. Aren't quad cores releasing in two months? If you like it, buy it. If not, you know what to do. This phone is a rarity, it has everything out of the box and it's worth it for the price. Lots of people bought them at that price.
Remember the name of this thread?
I'm simply answering the guy. I know every phone (or any digital consumer product for that matter) will get outdated, but usually I look for something that's not nearly outdated before its released (like the n9). If you're judging your purchase out of its buttery smoothness I congratulate you because you will probably get something suitable for you theese days regardless what you choose. And maybe you can afford that.
Maybe its just the right phone for you and then I'm happy for you. But some people evaluate their choices out of more criterias than that. Besides, its not really an argument that many people already has bought an overpriced product (sadly enough, the fruit company is a perfect example). I think its better to buy something for the right reasons, not because so many others happens to do that.

But maybe that's whats most important for many people today? Identifying oneself with others and blending in.
"Look, I can also afford one, I'm just like you." Such stupidity and low self esteem makes me kind of sick actually. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not totally wrong on this point.
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2011-10-23 , 19:19
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#33
Originally Posted by Larswad View Post
Not really, the list could go on with for instance integrated skype (huge difference to separate app), a lot of great customizable widgets (no, the n9 doesn't have widgets because it probably wants to look as dull as the iSnore), the n900 is not locked from doing anything you want with it (in fact it is built with the intention to be modified) in opposite to the n9 where you need to go through a sort of rooting process.
I dont' see how the x11 support, customizability, stylus, stereo speakers (and 32 gb to a lower price) is debatable. its tnings that n9 completely lacks.

Further I would be cautious talking about the hardware in the n9 since it comes with a cpu that is even inferiour to the one release in the galaxy S years ago. comparing the gpu in the n8 also makes the n9 look pretty silly.

On top of all this the N9 is very expensive if you compare it with other smartphones in the same segment and with the same target customers. If you'd want such a phone you'd be better off with a Galaxy S II by far, unless all you want is to have monster glass, true multitasking and a more true to the design linux os.
Phones today is mostly about fanboyism and neat thick, slick design and apps apps apps. If you want something else beside this superficial fluff you're left with very few alternatives.
I had my hopes up for a long time with where Meego would end up, but when i saw and read the n9 specs it was a big yawn and disappointmen
So wrong, on so many counts, but CBF'd correcting every single one of them.
You are factually wrong on numerous points, making huge assumptions/claims WRT software/hw/pricing.
Framing 'everything' as inferior to the N900 overall, vastly simplistic argument.

I could easily counter much of what you claim, but I'm tired of re-typing the same crud, sorry.
It's been debated & debated, see the main thread for the same rehashed noise.

P.S.
In case you hadn't noticed. The scope of this thread is N900 V N9.
If you want to argue why the N9's worse than the SGSII or other ph's.
There's other thread/s here for that, feel free to dive-in there...
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2011-10-23 , 19:22
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#34
Rumors tell us that even S40 devices are going to have high-score (in benchmarks) CPU. Still, no way to productively use those - same apply to N9.

It's somehow like comparing console/computer. You can put a s**t hardware into console, but still, due to various manufacturer (design) decisions, You won't get 10% of computer (even with "lower" benchmark-rated hardware) functionality. Not to mention being upgradeable (see my signature about mugen-cover-power, and dr_frost_dk's dual-battery mod - try that with "shiny new toy" N9...).

N9 could use new advertising motto - "N9 - pay more, get less". Yea, N950 *was* meant at some point to be next generation N900, but due to various (CEO related, or not) things in Nokia, it was dumped down to N9. We've been through discussing about it so many times, that I almost feel ashamed of mentioning it again.

For any reasonable person, N900 is obvious choice, and there is no - even on far horizon (unfortunately) - device that may offer similar experience. Of course, it's still Freedom of Choice, so anyone is free to spend hard(or not) earned money on whatever she/he like.
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2011-10-23 , 19:43
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#35
Originally Posted by Larswad View Post
Remember the name of this thread?
Yes, the title is N900 vs N9, not GS SGX540 vs N9 SGX530

Maybe its just the right phone for you and then I'm happy for you. But some people evaluate their choices out of more criterias than that.
Some people like you, who'd rather buy a dual core with no GPS, BT, crappy camera with a sensor produced in a village in Zimbabwe. Go for dual cores.

BTW, N9 will last longer due to it's uniqueness. GS2 will date fast since the main reason people bought it was dual core and fast GPU which already got outdate by Belle's Broadcom BCM2763 and SGX543MP2. BT is already old, N9 and iPhone 4s have 4.0, also NFC, FM transmitter (N9), etc. Oh yeah, N9 is outdated.

Besides, its not really an argument that many people already has bought an overpriced product (sadly enough, the fruit company is a perfect example). I think its better to buy something for the right reasons, not because so many others happens to do that.
Lots bought a GS2, you wanna be one of them? BTW, price doesn't matter to certain people if it offers what they want. You don't seem to be capable of affording a N9.

But maybe that's whats most important for many people today? Identifying oneself with others and blending in.
"Look, I can also afford one, I'm just like you." Such stupidity and low self esteem makes me kind of sick actually. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not totally wrong on this point.
Yeah, you are wrong.
 
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2011-10-23 , 20:17
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#36
As I read this, with the latest Opera browser, I am sitting on my wife's car in parking lot waiting for her, listenning to *my* music being played equalized to *my* liking through a boosted FM freequency, I ask my self why would I want an N9 for?
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2011-10-23 , 21:52
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#37
Opera browser's available, equalizer's coming can't recall where read it OTTOMH, as is FMRX/RDS, & possibly TX.
It wasn't there out-of-the-box with the N900, so what's the problem?
Besides....
Why on earth would one want to transmit audio via FMTX, when they'd have a way better experience via BT2.1/Aux-in?
Anyone with a decent head-unit in their car, or a recent model car, has that covered.
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Equalizer's coming IIRC see Kontorri's blog*
I believe Kontorri said that a third-party developer should do it as a separate application. It's not coming to the stock music player. I wouldn't want it myself, anyway. I prefer flat. I laugh when I hear people say that EQ improves sound quality.
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#39
Originally Posted by rm42 View Post
As I read this, with the latest Opera browser, I am sitting on my wife's car in parking lot waiting for her, listenning to *my* music being played equalized to *my* liking through a boosted FM freequency, I ask my self why would I want an N9 for?
Coz it's buttery smooth, innit?

N9 is a great application launcher, and as an application developer, I quite like my N950. For everything else, N900 wins.
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2011-10-23 , 22:01
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Yeah already edited my post.
I agree about the pointlessness equalizers, LOL.
 
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