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2012-06-14
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Originally Posted by Bernard
Maybe they will just kill it. This is probably in Microsoft's best interests.
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2012-06-14
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Ok, it's official, no Meltemi / Qt for the next billion, Java is there to stay.
Eero Penttinen
Domain Lead, Qt for MeeGo R&D at Nokia
Next billion strategy is based on Java. Period!
Domain Lead, Qt for MeeGo R&D at Nokia
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2012-06-14
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Timo Toikkanen as executive vice president of Mobile Phones;
BTW, Who is Timo Toikkanen? Hopefully I’ve pulled up the right linkedin profile.
Senior SW Designer at Ixonos
Ixonos has done quite a bit of work with MeeGo
Huge past in software. If anyone is to be key as to what’s happening with Meltemi and next billion software, this guy sounds like he fits the bill. SW Engineer at Protomo Jyväskylä, Specialist, SW Production Support at Nokia, Test Designer at Nokia Networks Oy,
mynokiablog.com/2012/06/14/big-nokia-news-today-salado-in-vertu-devard-savander-mcdowell-out-10000-to-go-by-2013-and-more/
Give the guy a chance to see what he does with the "Next Billion" strategy.
Nokia is not a fool to invest time and money in Meltemi and then just dissolve it without a reason.
There's always two sides to the coin. Stop believing in only one side of the truth...
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2012-06-14
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@felipec
Thanks for the birthday present Mr. Elop.
Second Linux platform I work in Nokia,
and gets killed. I wonder when will he
admit WP failed.
Mexican software engineer and open
source advocate working at Maemo,
Nokia
Bad days are coming ...
Thanks for the birthday present Mr. Elop.
Second Linux platform I work in Nokia,
and gets killed. I wonder when will he
admit WP failed.
Mexican software engineer and open
source advocate working at Maemo,
Nokia
Bad days are coming ...
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2012-06-14
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Very sad to me.....
because these guys have been under great pressure, from top to bottom, to deliver.
Now Meltemi is dead, I think there is nothing that cannot be said.
The big problem for Meltemi I have been seeing is the constantly-changing strategy, and the schedule slip. It was originally planned to have public demo in Q2, SDK and API documents available soon after. There were talks about budget allocated to create thousands of apps for product launch. Operators loved Meltemi UI. There was plan for a higher-end low-end phone that might be what people here can live with. People were already planning about tablet.
But somehow the project is way behind schedule in reality. This becomes uncomfortably clear the closer we are to Q2 end. Schedule slip ensued.... from a few weeks to a quarter, and create a chain effect to the whole project launch.
For the slip, in some ways I think Nokia wasted too much time keeping Meltemi in secret mode. This barrier hinder the debugging significantly. But there must be other things that make all this not happening fast enough.....
Also, Mary's leaving shows Nokia is losing the low-end market really bad. S40 touch cannot compete with low-end Android, and without Meltemi Nokia has nothing to fight the little green robots. It's dead end for Nokia in mobile phone. Game is over. The meager profit from Windows phone cannot support the company. Nokia is dead to me.
Anyway, big thanks for people working on this project. I am sure some of them will shed more lights in the future... I still cannot believe how Nokia manged to repeat history in such a short time frame. It is unfair to put all blames on Elop because many things are already set in stone when he arrived, but the strategy he planned is crumbling in every way. He should fire himself first.....
because these guys have been under great pressure, from top to bottom, to deliver.
Now Meltemi is dead, I think there is nothing that cannot be said.
The big problem for Meltemi I have been seeing is the constantly-changing strategy, and the schedule slip. It was originally planned to have public demo in Q2, SDK and API documents available soon after. There were talks about budget allocated to create thousands of apps for product launch. Operators loved Meltemi UI. There was plan for a higher-end low-end phone that might be what people here can live with. People were already planning about tablet.
But somehow the project is way behind schedule in reality. This becomes uncomfortably clear the closer we are to Q2 end. Schedule slip ensued.... from a few weeks to a quarter, and create a chain effect to the whole project launch.
For the slip, in some ways I think Nokia wasted too much time keeping Meltemi in secret mode. This barrier hinder the debugging significantly. But there must be other things that make all this not happening fast enough.....
Also, Mary's leaving shows Nokia is losing the low-end market really bad. S40 touch cannot compete with low-end Android, and without Meltemi Nokia has nothing to fight the little green robots. It's dead end for Nokia in mobile phone. Game is over. The meager profit from Windows phone cannot support the company. Nokia is dead to me.
Anyway, big thanks for people working on this project. I am sure some of them will shed more lights in the future... I still cannot believe how Nokia manged to repeat history in such a short time frame. It is unfair to put all blames on Elop because many things are already set in stone when he arrived, but the strategy he planned is crumbling in every way. He should fire himself first.....
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2012-06-14
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Originally Posted by funkmunk
mynokiablog.com/2012/06/14/big-nokia-
Give the guy a chance (...)
I believe you have the wrong Timo there. He's from Marketing, not Software. http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/pro...rgetid=profile
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2012-06-14
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Originally Posted by myname24
That could probably be true, for both Nokia and Microsoft and all the people working for them.
Bad days are coming ...
I just don't see the current Nokia (smart)phone users switch to Windows Phone based devices. I also don't see the current Microsoft Windows users switch to Metro UI on Windows 8.
I just don't see the advantage.
Maybe I'll get it when the new Windows 8/phone/RT stuff is out. But if customers don't switch, the problems for these two companies are only just starting.
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2012-06-14
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Originally Posted by zwer
By Java, he probably means S40 touch....
Ok, it's official, no Meltemi / Qt for the next billion, Java is there to stay.
Eero Penttinen
Domain Lead, Qt for MeeGo R&D at Nokia
and that sounds to me like sarcasm....
Last edited by sony123; 2012-06-14 at 11:58.
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2012-06-14
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And the sail for fail continues at nokia the finish wander has become a joke. The sad thing is that if Nokia was some half dead bank the government would intervene and give them billions for free but since it's just the single most important entity of the finish economy their letting some joker giving it out for free to MS.
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2012-06-14
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Is this for real @mynokiablog?
...and some more.
Last edited by don_falcone; 2012-06-14 at 12:34.
steelicon says:
June 14, 2012 at 12:02 pm
When they killed Symbian and MeeGo and the final insult in the form of Nokia 808 PureView not being marketed/sold properly, I stopped believing.
It’s all lies and deceit now, the CEO himself leading the pack of wolves that would devour Nokia in favor of its Redmond masters.
Did you know that they only release 300 units of Nokia 808PV in Malaysia, 20 in Egypt and 50 in the Philippines? And that it is a restricted release, not even on display and you’d have to ask the salesperson for it SPECIFICALLY as if it were contraband/illegal units? YMMV but I’ve seen this rampant in Nokia Stores, these units are EXCLUSIVELY SOLD only in Nokia only stores. The other dealers are restricted from selling nor carrying Nokia 808 PV.
This is plain stupid.
steelicon says:
June 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm
The same Regional Sales Manager further stated that the Exclusive Nokia Concept Stores which sell Nokia only products only have stocks of the Nokia 808 PureView RM-807 as a FORM OF COMPLIANCE to their contract.
Meaning to say, it’s just a formality that they even have stocks, so they are not really encouraged to sell nor market them aggressively.
Go figure.
Last edited by don_falcone; 2012-06-14 at 12:34.
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