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2016-10-26
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Not sure how to make fighting spam effective without some annoyances.
Blocking known spammers is not the most effective way.
Not saying to use this, nor that its effective, but, could be considered
http://www.stopforumspam.com
Other small tricks, like "no follow" on links posted may assist.
Blocking known spammers is not the most effective way.
Not saying to use this, nor that its effective, but, could be considered
http://www.stopforumspam.com
Other small tricks, like "no follow" on links posted may assist.
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2016-10-26
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Now THAT is a very good idea.
A spambot won't be able to pay a dollar.
And a spammer will see it as an irritation not to bother with...
knowing it is lost money the moment their spam is noticed and their account shut down.
Brilliant idea mscion.
A spambot won't be able to pay a dollar.
And a spammer will see it as an irritation not to bother with...
knowing it is lost money the moment their spam is noticed and their account shut down.
Brilliant idea mscion.
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Are there legit newly created accounts nowadays?
I do not know about details of TOR:
Could TOR be configured to use endpoints that are not blocked?
Is the use of VPNs feasible, may be behind your TOR setup?
I do not know about details of TOR:
Could TOR be configured to use endpoints that are not blocked?
Is the use of VPNs feasible, may be behind your TOR setup?
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2016-10-26
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Originally Posted by michaaa62
That's what I'd like to know; what's the S/N ratio of new users?
Are there legit newly created accounts nowadays?
Originally Posted by michaaa62
1.) Nope, you cannot (and should not, even if you could!) modify the way Tor handles routing. That would endanget the security model.
I do not know about details of TOR:
Could TOR be configured to use endpoints that are not blocked?
Is the use of VPNs feasible, may be behind your TOR setup?
2.) I do not understand how would you do that, what's the purpose? Both Tor and VPN's can be used to do partially the same thing, meaning hide your actual location but I see no way to use them at the same time?
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2016-10-26
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen
I appreciate your point. It can be a difficult thing to balance. Allowing free easy access to facilitate dialogue and keeping the bozos off.
Sounds good to stop spammers but as well peeps without the possibility to wire the money (younger kids) or just not having the funds or .....
So I would not recommend this approach (as it would also create a layer for new members).
But what is this discussion about?
To show what could be done if we had a paid admin team serving 24/7???
PLEASE keep in mind that there are (way) less than a handful of members to support the maemo infra and keep it alive.
So any proposal should reflect this. Or get in touch with techstaff and offer your help/know-how/time!
If young peeps can't wire the funding in they could snail mail it. I'd be happy to volunteer my address to mail the dollar (or penny) to!
But on a serious note, I do, greatly appreciate those that maintain the site and have often benefited from help given here. Again appreciated!
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Of course you can use tor and VPN simultaneously, but there is no point lol
2.) I do not understand how would you do that, what's the purpose? Both Tor and VPN's can be used to do partially the same thing, meaning hide your actual location but I see no way to use them at the same time?
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2016-10-26
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Originally Posted by mscion
The problem with that is that those strange fonts are pretty damn difficult to read for normal human beings as well. I think that's the very reason computers can't read them: humans can't tell the computer how to interpret those strange words because they can't even read them themselves.
Like for the first 10 posts you have to enter some words you are given that are in a strange font that could not be easily read by a program.
Originally Posted by nieldk
Of course you can use tor and VPN simultaneously, but there is no point lol
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Originally Posted by nthn
The problem with that is that those strange fonts are pretty damn difficult to read for normal human beings as well. I think that's the very reason computers can't read them: humans can't tell the computer how to interpret those strange words because they can't even read them themselves.
Well, it would be for just the first few posts. I think they only post once.
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Beware!
Applying captchas to tmo will make you share the same little space in hell with all operators of captive portal hotspots
Anyway, the problem is we are propably dealing with human spam monkeys that can pass captchas.
A social attempt could be more effective.
Newly created accounts should be read-only and delete themselfes one week after creation if not activated.
To activate the account, the new member has to write a two sentence "Hello i am using device X... and am here to..." selfpresentation PM to Councel or Admin.
It will be relatively easy to identify a spammer that goes the length of attempting to get an activation by lying on his motives. My guess is they do not even know what tmo is all about and will gobble something like "Helo Friend, I legit, please activate!"
Maybe a invite system could also work where trusted members can sent invite tokens for auto activated new accounts.
Granted i have no idea how complex this would be to implement into the current system.
Just my humble idea to stop spammers for good.
Applying captchas to tmo will make you share the same little space in hell with all operators of captive portal hotspots
Anyway, the problem is we are propably dealing with human spam monkeys that can pass captchas.
A social attempt could be more effective.
Newly created accounts should be read-only and delete themselfes one week after creation if not activated.
To activate the account, the new member has to write a two sentence "Hello i am using device X... and am here to..." selfpresentation PM to Councel or Admin.
It will be relatively easy to identify a spammer that goes the length of attempting to get an activation by lying on his motives. My guess is they do not even know what tmo is all about and will gobble something like "Helo Friend, I legit, please activate!"
Maybe a invite system could also work where trusted members can sent invite tokens for auto activated new accounts.
Granted i have no idea how complex this would be to implement into the current system.
Just my humble idea to stop spammers for good.
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So I would not recommend this approach (as it would also create a layer for new members).
But what is this discussion about?
To show what could be done if we had a paid admin team serving 24/7???
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