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2009-10-10
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"Internet tablet" ... that's what N900 is said to be (at least in France...)
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2009-10-10
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Hmm the name internet tablet is phased out. 
Not all mobile computers have ethernet... there are more ways to get Internet connectivity besides using ethernet for connectivity.
As I said there are many devices already which do this what you want, and are cheaper (SheevaPlug costs 100 EUR). I mean, why would you leave your 600 EUR worth phone alone for 2+ hours.
Yes, would be really nice if N900 could do it, yet it won't! Send your complaints to USB IF though.. not Nokia...
Not all mobile computers have ethernet... there are more ways to get Internet connectivity besides using ethernet for connectivity.
As I said there are many devices already which do this what you want, and are cheaper (SheevaPlug costs 100 EUR). I mean, why would you leave your 600 EUR worth phone alone for 2+ hours.
Yes, would be really nice if N900 could do it, yet it won't! Send your complaints to USB IF though.. not Nokia...
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2009-10-10
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About Ethernet connection: simply overkill. IMHO, note IMHO, N900 is a cell phone, with wifi and multimedia capabilities. Should it have RJ-45 port, it would A) look ugly as hell B) add extra cost C) be useless to most users. And it has 3G data transfer, too!
About USB OTG: not so overkill. To me, quite useless - with the sole exception of USB mass memory connection, and with a huge question mark, game controller. Bluetooth can be used, too, and is more elegant with a small device like N900 (it's smaller than the controller!)
Please, try to remember, that purpose of N900 is to be Internet tablet, media player, backup camera and a cell phone. Everything else is just frigging cool candy! It is very hard, or in many cases impossible, to make the device do something not supported by the hardware. The power lays in software, instead! I have, for example, completed some of my programming homework using gcc on my current N810 - just how cool is that?
About USB OTG: not so overkill. To me, quite useless - with the sole exception of USB mass memory connection, and with a huge question mark, game controller. Bluetooth can be used, too, and is more elegant with a small device like N900 (it's smaller than the controller!)
Please, try to remember, that purpose of N900 is to be Internet tablet, media player, backup camera and a cell phone. Everything else is just frigging cool candy! It is very hard, or in many cases impossible, to make the device do something not supported by the hardware. The power lays in software, instead! I have, for example, completed some of my programming homework using gcc on my current N810 - just how cool is that?
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2009-10-10
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Well of course I don't want it include a ethernet card.. but if the USB had supported host feature it would have allow the connection of a USB ethernet adapter.
For the moment I will use as it is done for : internet, phone etc...
For the moment I will use as it is done for : internet, phone etc...
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2009-10-11
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@ Alabama
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Found this is in the extra-devel repository in the maemo 5 final sdk
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2009-10-11
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Please, try to remember, that purpose of N900 is to be Internet tablet, media player, backup camera and a cell phone.
My purpose is that I want an all-in-one-device: Full computer, camera, GPS, guitar-tuner, network-tester, music studio, oscilloscope, communicator, tri-corder, medical diagnostic tool, car/home e-key, credit-ecard. I don't think I'm the only one. When I go out I want to grab my "phone" device, a pocket tool-kit/knife, and maybe a harmonica, and have all my stuff with me. I don't want to go "hmm for my job today I'll also need a laptop and some reference books, and an iPod and ..."
So that's my purpose. And the N900 can do a LOT of that. So what do I want in the next model? Spectrometer, Projection screen (1600x1024), bluetooth watch-as-a-dashboard support, ...
Not everyone has the same purpose for buying something.
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2009-10-11
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Originally Posted by BruceL
Me too want a swiss knife ..err... fin knife ..err... fin fone
Says who? That isn't my purpose. If that was the purpose Nokia was thinking of (and I'm fairly sure it isn't) they are small visioned.
My purpose is that I want an all-in-one-device: Full computer, camera, GPS, guitar-tuner, network-tester, music studio, oscilloscope, communicator, tri-corder, medical diagnostic tool, car/home e-key, credit-ecard. I don't think I'm the only one. When I go out I want to grab my "phone" device, a pocket tool-kit/knife, and maybe a harmonica, and have all my stuff with me. I don't want to go "hmm for my job today I'll also need a laptop and some reference books, and an iPod and ..."
So that's my purpose. And the N900 can do a LOT of that. So what do I want in the next model? Spectrometer, Projection screen (1600x1024), bluetooth watch-as-a-dashboard support, ...
Not everyone has the same purpose for buying something.
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2009-10-11
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bdogg64: usbcontrol doesn't work.
others: If you need a portable network testing device that is smaller than a laptop, get your company to buy an N810 for you. It is a great Internet radio listening device when it is on your desk, too.
others: If you need a portable network testing device that is smaller than a laptop, get your company to buy an N810 for you. It is a great Internet radio listening device when it is on your desk, too.
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2009-10-11
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Originally Posted by bdogg64
Yeah, and that means exactly nothing. Its been there since july 14 2009. But its software support for Fremantle. Doesn't mean it will work correct on Nokia N900...
Found this is in the extra-devel repository in the maemo 5 final sdk
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2009-10-11
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qole:
and you really don't see the beauty of a single device for all of it? Ever since nvidia released the tegra platform, I 'dream' about device, that will have a hdmi ouput (at least. 1680x1050), some usb port (for external kbd, mouse, ethernet, usb dongle), and an open linux inside.. N900 could've been almost it - we'll see what n900+1 will be...
(btw, once one does networking stuff at work, it really makes no difference, whether he has to use mobile+netbook, or mobile+n810+usb2eth... single device+usb2eth would be a different story...)
however, it makes me sad that some of you guys already have your n900's (some at least since the nokia parade in Amsterdam) - yet noone tried to test the usb otg...
Instead we're still discussing the same things over and over (this is 413. post)... ;-)
and you really don't see the beauty of a single device for all of it? Ever since nvidia released the tegra platform, I 'dream' about device, that will have a hdmi ouput (at least. 1680x1050
), some usb port (for external kbd, mouse, ethernet, usb dongle), and an open linux inside.. N900 could've been almost it - we'll see what n900+1 will be...(btw, once one does networking stuff at work, it really makes no difference, whether he has to use mobile+netbook, or mobile+n810+usb2eth... single device+usb2eth would be a different story...)
however, it makes me sad that some of you guys already have your n900's (some at least since the nokia parade in Amsterdam) - yet noone tried to test the usb otg...
Instead we're still discussing the same things over and over (this is 413. post)... ;-)
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