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	spinnukur	2009-11-22 , 07:45
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Originally Posted by Rushmore

I suggest that the prototypes were of a tighter controlled production batch and that the mass production units may be different enough to have different issues not in the prototypes.

As far as portrait mode, the tsunami of posts and complaints by consumers and media who think the N900 is a smartphone who review the N900 will be:

1. Where is the portrait mode?
2. I can not text with one hand?
3. I can not use the phone function with one hand?
4. Where the heck is the MMS?
5. No direct call function?
6. For a smartphone, this is not very smart!

Too many people assuming what the product is not. Nokia did not do a very good job of articulating what the N900 is and should have NEVER put the word "smartphone" in any of their announcements. Even if the line was, "The N900 is not a smartphone", the word should not have been mentioned.

What do you mean 'No direct call function' ?

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rcs1000	2009-11-22 , 08:11
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rushmore: "prototypes were of a tighter controlled production batch"

All I can say is that you've never worked in a mass production environment before!

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edusp	2009-11-22 , 12:09
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Originally Posted by MountainX

Sorry to hear about your bad luck. If I had an N900, I'd sell you mine and replace it next week. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on Amazon and Dell to ship my preorders...

Have a nice trip back to Brazil. Hope you get an N900 before you leave.

Thanks man, had a great time here in NY.

I will try to go again once more today when they open, who knows...

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dnastase	2009-11-22 , 12:58
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Originally Posted by Bratag

Guys seriously stop worrying about the memory, go find the other thread in the forums that discusses how Linux uses RAM. I really wish the free command was one they would get rid of as it just gives noobs a wrong impression.

Believe me, there is no issue with the amount of RAM. I thought the same initially but now, after playing with it for two days, I can tell you: no matter how many apps I opened (I didn't stress it, just in the course of usage) I have never got an "out of memory" or for that matter, never saw any lag due to swapping.

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dnastase	2009-11-22 , 13:03
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Originally Posted by Rushmore

1. Where is the portrait mode?
2. I can not text with one hand?
3. I can not use the phone function with one hand?
4. Where the heck is the MMS?
5. No direct call function?
6. For a smartphone, this is not very smart!

This is funny: theoretically I agree with you it's probably limiting not to support this, but I, for one, don't miss/need this at all. I liked the other tables so much, that I always open the keyboard just to take the phone out of the standby.
You can use both thumbs to both type and touch screen, it's much faster. The landscape layout is much more useful (that's why our monitors are that way).

About the "direct call function": I don't know what you mean. Like on the G1 (for instance) there is a contacts app and a dialer app. You open it and you can call.

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Rushmore	2009-11-22 , 15:09
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Originally Posted by dnastase

This is funny: theoretically I agree with you it's probably limiting not to support this, but I, for one, don't miss/need this at all. I liked the other tables so much, that I always open the keyboard just to take the phone out of the standby.
You can use both thumbs to both type and touch screen, it's much faster. The landscape layout is much more useful (that's why our monitors are that way).

About the "direct call function": I don't know what you mean. Like on the G1 (for instance) there is a contacts app and a dialer app. You open it and you can call.

You can not access the phone app without going to landscape and activating the function. Probably falls more into one hand-operation, but will be a problem to some and is a very basic phone function, a lot will assume is standard.

I think it is too late, so Nokia and sites like this just need to take their hits and roll with it. I expect the amount of push-back will be huge, so either Nokia will publish a clear timetable path to fixing the issues (in the minds of many these are fixes) and then release updates accordingly.

I still see no way how there will not be a lot of N900 returns and middle-road reviews due to this and incorrect assumptions by smartphoners. The irony is the N900 is hard to get "now", but will probably be very easy to get in January/February.

Most of the coming fallout could have been avoided by less than ambiguous marketing.

added:

I also think that people will either love the N900 or hate it. The split will be based on the assumption level that the N900 is a smartphone with "standard" features that are in high end smartphones. Most people here (now) will love it and probably become impatient with the "haters".

Those that give the N900 time will be rewarded, but consumers tend to not be too patient.

Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-11-22 at 15:17.

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sadfist	2009-11-22 , 15:24
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Quick tip you can set the phone app to open automatically when you flip the phone to portrait :-)

It works....well enough (I hate accelerometer based actions, lol).

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Rushmore	2009-11-22 , 15:25
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Originally Posted by rcs1000

rushmore: "prototypes were of a tighter controlled production batch"

All I can say is that you've never worked in a mass production environment before!

1. auto parts (QS9000)
2. populated mother boards for contract manufacturing (consumer and commercial)
3. printers (consumer and commercial)

I have been in every phase including product marketing and materials manager.

Test units are made differently and do not go through the same mass production cycle time rates. The SPC process is also different. Actual mass production parameters are not set until prototypes are verified and just before mass-production "green light" to begin shipping. This is to reduce inventory and to not procure components that may change in the final build revision.

I did not say the prototypes were "better", just developed under different conditions that may result in "different issues". added: Even the 300 from last month could be different due to FW and new things added may have created new issues. Maybe.

Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-11-22 at 15:35.

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Rushmore	2009-11-22 , 15:32
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Originally Posted by sadfist

Quick tip you can set the phone app to open automatically when you flip the phone to portrait :-)

It works....well enough (I hate accelerometer based actions, lol).

Nokia might have been best to set this as default

Smartphoners might think it is "cool" and not complain about things that will get fixed anyway.

The more I think about it the more amazed the N900 is loaded with the features and storage memory it has for the price. Especially considering it is priced the same as Behold 2 and Droid- just to name a few.