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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by nestori
Three years ago, the buzz was positive and the phone - frankly - not so positive, to say the least. Now, the phone is quite good (despite some shortcomings for me the best - better than BB10, Ios, Android)) but the buzz is negative.
Off topic (like the whole thread basically), but it's saddening (for me at least) to think for two, three years back when the Jolla phone was on it's way and then launched, back when there was positive buzz around Jolla and Marc was doing his thing (with publicity) and back when a lot of people were thrilled about the new OS and new phone.
And now we are here.
I wonder when Marc and others who left Jolla realized that it was all going to s**t and decided to abandon the ship.
Disappointment depends on your expectations ...
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by JoOppen
True. Didn't expect to be scamed
Three years ago, the buzz was positive and the phone - frankly - not so positive, to say the least. Now, the phone is quite good (despite some shortcomings for me the best - better than BB10, Ios, Android)) but the buzz is negative.
Disappointment depends on your expectations ...
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2016-01-27
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#4114
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Here we are, going into February and still no update.
Does anyone have any faith (or even goodwill) in Jolla any more?
Does anyone have any faith (or even goodwill) in Jolla any more?
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
Yes, I have!
Here Does anyone have any faith (or even goodwill) in Jolla any more?
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
After that last German interview I really have no faith or goodwill for Jolla anymore.
Here we are, going into February and still no update.
Does anyone have any faith (or even goodwill) in Jolla any more?
The only thing that makes sense to me is they are figuring out the minutia of exactly how to abandon the project in a legal way. If they were going to deliver or give refunds then they could have announced that by now.
The other hope some people are holding out, for an intex phone (or similar) doesn't make a lot of sense unless it would operate in all countries and carriers the tablet is being sold in. Also many contributers may not want a phone (I know I don't as a Sailfish phone doesn't currently meet my needs in that form factor)
Translated Interview: https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by Obsatcle-Man
If Jolla try to walk away from the tablet without doing anything - then they are dead. Even I don't think they are that stupid.
After that last German interview I really have no faith or goodwill for Jolla anymore.
The only thing that makes sense to me is they are figuring out the minutia of exactly how to abandon the project in a legal way. If they were going to deliver or give refunds then they could have announced that by now.
The other hope some people are holding out, for an intex phone (or similar) doesn't make a lot of sense unless it would operate in all countries and carriers the tablet is being sold in. Also many contributers may not want a phone (I know I don't as a Sailfish phone doesn't currently meet my needs in that form factor)
Translated Interview: https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url
Most likely scenario now is that they are trying to hold off on offering people an alternative, because they want to unveil the alternative (the new Intex phone) at MWC. It stinks that people are having to wait even longer just so Jolla can have a co-ordinated marketing push for MWC.
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
It certainly will be interesting to see which tech blogs do any investigation and report the tablet situation along with any Sailfish phone news rather than just parroting the press release.
Most likely scenario now is that they are trying to hold off on offering people an alternative, because they want to unveil the alternative (the new Intex phone) at MWC. It stinks that people are having to wait even longer just so Jolla can have a co-ordinated marketing push for MWC.
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2016-01-27
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
Hmm. Gotta say, if Jolla is entirely dependent on the goodwill of a group of people that provided them something like 2 million USD in revenue (leading to negative profit if you factor in the tablet R&D costs), Jolla was dead either way. If Jolla actually tries to give everyone a tablet or a full refund, I suspect it'll have an instant return to bankruptcy.
If Jolla try to walk away from the tablet without doing anything - then they are dead.
Jolla's business plan was always to go after the same market that Apple and Google have tapped into, with a cellphone OS targeted to the mass market. They've really spent no time or effort trying to figure out how to derive a sustainable income from folks interested in open source software, nor have they really put much effort into trying to leverage the power of so many knowledgable software engineers in the open source world. These are the people, I think, they could have gained leverage with if they'd done a better job of getting Sailfish out there, but doing so makes no sense given their business plan...
Long story short: The tablet campaign didn't help Jolla at all last year; it was enormously popular, and Jolla went bankrupt anyway. You may say that making campaign contributors unhappy will destroy the company, but making them happy sure did no favors for them...
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2016-01-27
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#4120
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We will sink their launch if they don't treat us like customers, supporters and fans.
It's unacceptable to wait for MWC!
It's unacceptable to wait for MWC!
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