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2011-06-07
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Originally Posted by HaugMedia
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=167
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2011-06-07
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@volt
hi mate,
I'm not ignoring the impact of killing symbian and breaking the synergy between it and maemo/meego, but (for now) both symbian and qt still very much exist.
given the average lifecycle of hardware and combining it with thre rate of application development there's still alot of money to be made if that's what it boils down to. we know that oil is running out but the car manufacturers are still building cars last time i checked..
It will be the devs who decide whether or not they choose to port their symbian and maemo(qt) apps across to Meego. Most of the awesome work done by this community has been unpaid. there's nothing wrong with continuing that work for a project that is open and has the potential to be bigger than just Nokia.
when i said "on top of" i wasn't implying sales, but more to the technology. There's nothing wrong with niche markets either.
After all, Apple used to be one...
Last edited by onethreealpha; 2011-06-07 at 02:12.
hi mate,
I'm not ignoring the impact of killing symbian and breaking the synergy between it and maemo/meego, but (for now) both symbian and qt still very much exist.
given the average lifecycle of hardware and combining it with thre rate of application development there's still alot of money to be made if that's what it boils down to. we know that oil is running out but the car manufacturers are still building cars last time i checked..
It will be the devs who decide whether or not they choose to port their symbian and maemo(qt) apps across to Meego. Most of the awesome work done by this community has been unpaid. there's nothing wrong with continuing that work for a project that is open and has the potential to be bigger than just Nokia.
when i said "on top of" i wasn't implying sales, but more to the technology. There's nothing wrong with niche markets either.
After all, Apple used to be one...
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Last edited by onethreealpha; 2011-06-07 at 02:12.
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2011-06-07
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#4133
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Originally Posted by zapotek
Guess that makes us The Three Stooges
me to that make as 2 fools
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2011-06-07
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@ São Paulo, SP, Brasil
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Originally Posted by volt
This is a misunderstanding. Qt is still being developed by "Trolltech", by Nokia. They still own it and work on it and develop it by themselves, with all the existing openness, transparency etc. The "Qt Commercial" thing is a business related to support and selling special licenses, etc. No Qt fragmentation in sight. http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/14/...s-and-fiction/
Nokia is splitting Qt up, though. What once was a separate company is being divided and parts are being sold out. Other parts are being kept. Doesn't look like Qt will be Qt.
http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing
I dunno someday someone might like to create some kind of Qt fork, like can happen with any project... Not sure how that might work under the different licences. Anyway, I really don't see nothing like that happening. You are just echoing old concerns raised back in March that haven't still found any support.
Last edited by nwerneck; 2011-06-07 at 04:56.
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2011-06-07
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@ Germany
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after 415 pages just a short list of speculated specs:
Nokia „ION"
4“ qHD CBD
Omap 36xx @ 1.2 Ghz
768Mb ram
8MP AF dual led - recording 720p @ 30 fps
64Gb storage - no microsd slot
micro-sim (like iphone4)
very slim plastic casing (coated with something)
take it with a grain of salt!
Last edited by zymo; 2011-06-07 at 05:27.
Nokia „ION"
4“ qHD CBD
Omap 36xx @ 1.2 Ghz
768Mb ram
8MP AF dual led - recording 720p @ 30 fps
64Gb storage - no microsd slot
micro-sim (like iphone4)
very slim plastic casing (coated with something)
take it with a grain of salt!
Last edited by zymo; 2011-06-07 at 05:27.
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2011-06-07
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#4136
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Replace the name "Nokia ION" with "Nokia U".
And where did you got the micro-SIM part from?
Plastic.... hmm.. sort of, but not plastic at all..
edit: I mean, really. If you want to have an idea (not 100%) of how the consumer device looks like.
Take a look at this thing: http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ished-concept/
edit2: btw. good morning everyone.
Last edited by zehjotkah; 2011-06-07 at 06:25.
And where did you got the micro-SIM part from?
Plastic.... hmm.. sort of, but not plastic at all..
edit: I mean, really. If you want to have an idea (not 100%) of how the consumer device looks like.
Take a look at this thing: http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ished-concept/
edit2: btw. good morning everyone.
Last edited by zehjotkah; 2011-06-07 at 06:25.
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2011-06-07
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Originally Posted by volt
I just say this about Qt:
<rant>
You're completely ignoring that MeeGo goes from sitting on top of an OS that would feed MeeGo Qt applications built by the biggest platform in sales as of pre-february, to sit on top of an OS that would fight with fingernails and patents to prevent MeeGo from getting any synergy effect. Nobody will develop for MeeGo unless someone actually use MeeGo. What was good about Maemo were ported applications and the handful of gems made by this small community - what would have been good by MeeGo on top of Symbian^3 would be ported applications + the handful of gems made by this small community + an abundance of Qt apps recompiled from Symbian.
Without Symbian, MeeGo is just as Maemo - a really tiny niche. It can not be "on top of WP" - it will be way to the left of any triangle where WP is part.
Nokia were just about to enter a new phase in their OS strategy - they were building the foundation of Synergy. With cross platform Qt - which is the heart and foundation of the Qt thinking - they could even ensnare developers from Android and Windows Phone 7/8 without making these developers give up on their chosen OS. But instead they go out and announce that they wouldn't want to put any Qt on their Windows Phones, and that strategy - which were just starting to look promising - is laid dead.
Qt isn't technically dead yet, but Nokia sure isn't going to take it where they said they would - and without that, there will be no Nokia Maps on MeeGo, there will be no whatever we want to pick from another platform, it'll only be what Qwerty and the other people in here take the time to develop and port.
While that still makes MeeGo a brilliant platform, it'll make it just as individual dependent as Maemo was.
</rant>
MeeGo with Symbian^3 > MeeGo with Windows Phone 8
(read bigger, not better)
you doesnt seem to follow the http://labs.qt.nokia.com ????
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2011-06-07
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the device seems to be pretty slim. Not enough room to place a 12MP module or a microsd slot. So i think it is quite possible nokia used a micro sim instead of regular sim slot.
Okay plastic sounds a bit cheap, so lets say „polymer“ instead
Okay plastic sounds a bit cheap, so lets say „polymer“ instead
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2011-06-07
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah
Now that you have seen the device can you tell something about the ports? for example is there a hdmi port?
edit: I mean, really. If you want to have an idea (not 100%) of how the consumer device looks like.
Take a look at this thing: http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ished-concept/
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