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	pichlo	2016-01-27 , 20:04
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Originally Posted by mscion

My biggest concern is that this story will never end...

Allowing it to end would be tantamount to letting Jolla get away with it. That is what they hope/rely on.

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mikecomputing	2016-01-27 , 20:18
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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra

Question is: what should they tell, if there is nothing to tell ATM?

They could tell if they hate dark **** winter as much as I do...

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	Dave999	2016-01-27 , 20:20
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Love Darth winter...

So how many jolla Are we dealing with? Jolla SW and the new Jolla HW...what happend with the split? Cancelled?

So jolla sw takes the money, move tablet reposibility to Jolla hw, then declare it bankruptcy and Jolla sw blaming Jolla hw for the fail and then continue as nothing happend.

The would make the scam complete.

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att	2016-01-27 , 20:24
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Originally Posted by ZogG

The only difference is that going to moon first time was first time.
Creating own company, phone, Os and delivering it was done by others, even by same people in previous company (Nokia).
And a lot of experience is available from those examples. They even made the marketing site to advise other companies how to do it(jolla adventure or how is it called?) - which is the most ironic thing

We all stand on the shoulders of giants, even the people going to the moon on the first time

Obsatcle-Man	2016-01-27 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by pichlo

Allowing it to end would be tantamount to letting Jolla get away with it. That is what they hope/rely on.

There are 4 acceptable endings to me:

1. deliver the tablets
2. deliver refunds (maybe minus the fee taken by IGG)
3. deliver a choice of tablet or refund
4. bankruptcy

Does anyone know who has been giving them the funding? Series B was 12.4M and that lasted them about a year. Series C is unknown but is likely the last chance they will have.

All I found on who had been investing was a 6.25 percent stake owned by China Fortune as part of the 2013 financing. That and statements the financing was a mixture of EU and China based organizations

JoOppen	2016-01-28 , 09:10
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Originally Posted by Obsatcle-Man

There are 4 acceptable endings to me:

1. deliver the tablets
2. deliver refunds (maybe minus the fee taken by IGG)
3. deliver a choice of tablet or refund
4. bankruptcy

Does anyone know who has been giving them the funding? Series B was 12.4M and that lasted them about a year. Series C is unknown but is likely the last chance they will have.

All I found on who had been investing was a 6.25 percent stake owned by China Fortune as part of the 2013 financing. That and statements the financing was a mixture of EU and China based organizations

For me, there is a fifth Option (I know that most won't like it):

5. no refund, no tablet, but Jolla survives as a software company finding a parner that produces high qality phones (with keyboard?)

Why I prefer this over the second and the fourh option above: if Jolla somehow manages to deliver tablets and as a consequence further has to reduce resources for software development, a tablet (and even the existing phone) will not be of much use anymore.

As it turned out, the tablet project was not fortunate and already has taken too much of a toll from Jolla (see the brain drain).

Off course the best thing would be a happy end scenario like in the first option: tablets are delivered + they are realy good. To achieve the latter, still further software development only for the tablet is needed, I suppose, in order to achieve the same level as already achieved with the phone (maybe because of the ... Intel chipset, I don't know)

So Jolla's enthusiasm turned out to be too big of a challenge.

On the other hand, for me Sailfish OS is already so good that do not want Jolla to go down the drain because they were overly brave. I'd rather sacrifice (donate) my IGG contribution.

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NokiaFanatic	2016-01-28 , 10:18
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Originally Posted by JoOppen

For me, there is a fifth Option (I know that most won't like it):

5. no refund, no tablet, but Jolla survives as a software company finding a parner that produces high qality phones (with keyboard?)

There's another option.

6. Microsoft to throw the towel in on Windows and to place an all-in bet on Sailfish, using it for PC, tablet and phone.

My option is more likely than yours.

zenecho	2016-01-28 , 10:31
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic

My option is more likely than yours.

Actually I think option 5: is what is happening now! - minius the High spec - Keyboard option though

NokiaFanatic	2016-01-28 , 10:49
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Originally Posted by zenecho

Actually I think option 5: is what is happening now! - minius the High spec - Keyboard option though

That is what I meant. A high spec device with a physical keyboard will never happen.

NokiaFanatic	2016-01-28 , 10:54
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Originally Posted by Obsatcle-Man

Does anyone know who has been giving them the funding? Series B was 12.4M and that lasted them about a year. Series C is unknown but is likely the last chance they will have.

Well it's not the Chinese group - they are a publicly listed Hong Kong company and would have been obliged to announce any deal.