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dj_steve is offline dj_steve
2010-05-18 , 18:02
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#411
ok ill try and answer these questions in one post :

-Is it possible to use SGX driver of Maemo with Android? As far as I know, they're closed source drivers. I mean, are we going to able to run live wallpapers for example.
i have the sgx drivers from the milestone in the android build (check folder /system/lib/egl) but currently they wont work on the n900 - not entirely certain why yet though i suspect its due to me using an older kernel than the milestone does (and noone has pointed me in the direction of a decent 2.6.29 kernel yet.- about to try a omap one thoug just for a laugh)

-A similar question about GSM module: Isn't it a type of modem that needs a driver to work with the OS? Are you going to reverse engineer it or use another device's driver(Motorola Milestone for example)?
yes its a type of modem but as per usual for most nokia devices it has a propriety interface to access it called phonet (google it theirs pages of info on it) that basicly emulates a fake network link to the modem hardware, android by default wants a serial interface so im likely going to need to hack that a bit to work.
-Is this page yours: http://code.google.com/p/nitdroid/ If it is, do you plan to release the source code in here? It might speed up the project I guess(with bug tracing etc.).
thats the old nitdroid code group, ill will be setting up a git repo when i get time - as im on a slow upload connection it takes ages to upload 2-3gb of files (android source is ~1.5-1.8gb)

Why does it need the GSM connection for Google Apps? Is this a GSM data connection or would just the voice connection do it?
I'm too busy to try this just yet (and also fear voiding my warranty), but I'm trying to wrap my brain around it just the same.
it requires a normal mobile gsm connection as i suspect that google apps tie to the phones IMEI number/phone number - hence why you can activate a t-mobile g1 with google apps via wifi but only with a active sim(i have tried this myself and know its fact)

a fast question:

do you (dj_steve or the others too) think that it'll be usable and stable any day? with all the features and everything working?

I mean, maybe you know that it's not possible or you THINK that it's not possible and vice-versa...

I actually have no clue...
its always been my belief that i will not give up until i get it working or get to an obsticle that cannot be routed/bodged/hacked around. i have more than enough free time after/before work and on days off and incentive to do this (ive used android for the last 2+ years on various devices and know its abilitys) and i think with the exception of nokias annoying gsm stack it should be doable

is there a constantly update wiki for nitdroid, in addition to this thread? or where can i get the last updated install howto without spending hours reading the whole thread.
i try to keep nitdroid.com updated as best i can but i only have so much time anyone fancy helping out keeping it up to date throw me a message

excuse the mega post
 

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dj_steve is offline dj_steve
2010-05-18 , 18:09
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Originally Posted by twoboxen View Post
Look at the iPhone... they now have Android pretty much fully working there. If they can do that, then, yes, it's possible. The key is finding the right people. Also, consider the USB Host question. So many people thought that was IMPOSSIBLE, but the right individuals, when dedicated, can do it. If we were able to get DJ_Steve some good help it might be pretty easy.

Perhaps all of us following this topic (though unable to help technically) can start trying to get help from others?

beagleboard devs, Android on iPhone devs, cyanogen, Android developers from Google, etc. Be creative and TRY to be helpful. Just continuing to come in and ask when it will be ready doesn't help anyone.
agreed their, i could especially use info/details on how nokia interface with the CMT (cell modem) from maemo and also if theirs any way to get access to it without phonet
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:17
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#413
Originally Posted by twoboxen View Post
Look at the iPhone... they now have Android pretty much fully working there. If they can do that, then, yes, it's possible. The key is finding the right people. Also, consider the USB Host question. So many people thought that was IMPOSSIBLE, but the right individuals, when dedicated, can do it. If we were able to get DJ_Steve some good help it might be pretty easy.

Perhaps all of us following this topic (though unable to help technically) can start trying to get help from others?

beagleboard devs, Android on iPhone devs, cyanogen, Android developers from Google, etc. Be creative and TRY to be helpful. Just continuing to come in and ask when it will be ready doesn't help anyone.
I don't know if you got what I was tryin' to say fully, anyway, I was just asking to know what to expect, I'm sure guys are doing an AMAZING job, even if it doesn't go "full features".

I just would like to know if I can expect it to work in a stable manner, usable...

If I had time and knowledge, I would support the effort, for sure!
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:18
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#414
well at min ive just borked my eclair build folder so thats a goot 6 hours of downloading to do again oh well
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:23
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Originally Posted by dj_steve View Post
well at min ive just borked my eclair build folder so thats a goot 6 hours of downloading to do again oh well
git branch! It will save you.
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:34
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#416
how ??? and btw, is it a special kernel that you need ? one compiled for the milestone ? or just one working with nexus one will be ok ?
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2010-05-18 , 18:35
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how what ? that post doesnt make much sense out of context titi
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:39
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#418
More questions about the GSM connection. I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan (NO real data plan) with only t-zones for mobile Internet. I get my gmail and google voice on it, though, so theoretically it should be all right, it sounds like.
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2010-05-18 , 18:40
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yep, i dont think it strictly needs a data connection but needs a live active mobile signal
 
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2010-05-18 , 18:40
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sorry ^^ how did you bork your eclair's build ?? and you did not answer my question about the kernel ^^
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