The thing though, is that a whole lot of these posts are by just a few folks. In the last six pages, my count stands at:

ZogG: 18
jalyst: 13
Dave999: 6
JulmaHerra: 5
ggabriel: 5
szopin: 4
bluefoot: 4
pichlo: 2
r0kk3rz: 2
mikecomputing: 1
MartinK: 1
P@t: 1
strongm: 1
hemiwi: 1

So, in short, this is mostly just a few people posting the same points over and over and over at each other.

And, honestly, I don't really understand this thread at this point. I'm sure it's somewhat cathartic to air your complaints about Jolla, but this complaint about "lack of communication" is bizarre. Maybe I've been watching the computing industry too long now; I've watched Nokia burn itself to the ground, watched as HP transitioned from a company that created the most highly reliable products in the industry into one which sells the cheapest-built trash on the market, watched as Apple is slowly trying to turn all of its desktop PCs into big, non-upgradeable iPhones. There are certainly far worse things going on in the electronics industry to gripe about.

Ultimately, there's still a month to go before we even reach the point Jolla targeted as when they would potentially start shipping tablets! As they have already successfully launched a cellphone, I would expect they'll get everything into working order and get the hardware out, whether or not they manage to hit their original deadline...

How do you get 13 from me, what date time are you taking it from, I get ~6 (including this) over the last ~24hr for my total post count.
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Nvm you said "last 6 pages", so you were tallying over the last ~3 days...

Anyway if you read my 2nd last post, I more-or-less said the same thing as you, I don't see the point any more, unless something more useful's actually done.

Um...no? Where did I say something like that? I said that it's not wise to announce something if one is not sure about it's content, tentative announcements would be both annoying and harmful. It shouldn't be too difficult: if they cannot at this point be sure that additional delay is needed, or that they definitely will not need one, there is no point in announcing anything into either direction. Announce only when you are absolutely sure, not before if it's in any way possible.

Well, if you truly insist that HW KB is really, truly and honestly as complex project than designing new Tablet, setting up manufacturing, QC, software etc. and at the same time updates to existing phones, then by all means it has to be like that. There's no other possibility. Please forgive me the ignorance of overestimating things needed to build functioning Tablet.

I'm waiting for it and I trust to have it. Unlike some other people, I wasn't that surprised that there was two months delay. They announced the delay, reasons behind it and we are now within month of expected delivery date, so next thing I'm waiting to hear is when they will deliver them, or if they will need another delay. So for me there is enough information for now. It would be completely different thing if we were in this same situation at the end of the month without hearing anything into either direction, but before that, I expect them to deliver information only when they are sure. It should be something like 2 or 3 weeks.

And do I interpret your view correctly, if I say that you really expect them to do nothing else in any other forum if they are not communicating with you everythin you want them to communicate?

Possibly. Then again, what would you do with that information? Start as unofficial QC-operative? Or continue bashing Jolla for "they couldn't get even that right on first try"?

No, but as I have said repeatedly, I expect them to put all priority to get the delivery done in July. Instead of nice chit chat about things that doesn't do any difference in results.

I said I worked in company and I saw it's rise and fall to the brink of bankrupcy. I was also in the position to see the reasons behind that fall and what happened after that. Since then I have moved on. Of course you can dismiss it as irrelevant, as you can do just about everything that doesn't fit your opinions. But still, my experience is that excessive bean counting, reporting and all misplaced priorities, bureaucracy etc. that results because of it can easily kill a company even if there is nothing wrong with the product itself. Such things should always bring added value to core business, generating more income for the company and improving efficiency within company. Otherwise they have no value.

I'm not an open source advocate in any way, even if I work with open source products daily. For me there is always a business side of things, also because I need to provide for my own family which means there has to be some business to be done even with those open source parts. So, as long as I'm not financially independent in a way that I wouldn't have to work at all if I don't feel like it, I won't submit to single ideology instead of pragmatism.

As for Jolla, I do understand that they will need to make some money somehow, or there will be no new products, no Sailfish or not much anything. Community will never be able to pull those through by itself (not least because of inherit trait of communities to fall towards infighting when difficult decisions have to be made). But of course if you see corporate side to be simply "bad", then I can only say that our views are different.

Well, I remember you being very opposed of idea of anything Jolla related being here in the first place. So they did their own platform on TJC. Reasons why Jolla related stuff is here is because Sailfish is a direct successor of Maemo/MeeGo projects, done by very same people who participated in Maemo/MeeGo development. If you wish, you can ask Maemo Council to remove and ban all discussion related to Jolla and Sailfish. Might be a quiet place after that though.

My browser is breaking this thread into pages of 10 posts each, with the current page being page #46. So, in order to collect about 6 pages worth of this thread, I started at page #40 (post # 391), dated 7/2/15 at 5:47 am (EST), and counted up from there. This is also the page where Pichlo's post (#393) exists, so it seemed to be the appropriate page for me to start with...

See my updated post...

Some people say we get nowhere. I say just by discussing we are moving forward. NoW we just need jolla to move with us. Bad news, good news, release news...doesn't matter. Share, move, iterate, share move, iterate...

News incoming soon™!

https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/617221574425493504

Sooooooon!

One more to 140 buyers...jolla waiting for 140 buyers in this thread. The only logcal thing to do...I think this coming week be the week of weeks with one of the two missing blogposts.

Jolla Soon next device, don't be just in time, be unlike!

ROTFL

it's my post I hacked Jolla's twitter accout muahaha


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