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	Benson	2008-10-03 , 17:21
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In my understanding, there's several ways it can fail, including if you've removed all the PDFs and left the empty directory.

I haven't gotten the package and looked at the scripts, but it sounds like a piece of work, alright.

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	GeneralAntilles	2008-10-03 , 18:32
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Originally Posted by vinc17

If SSU fails just because the user has removed user files, this is entirely Nokia's fault.

I always remove the bundled PDFs, and have never had an issue with the documentation package. So, clearly, this isn't the whole story.

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	Mara	2008-10-03 , 18:52
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

I always remove the bundled PDFs, and have never had an issue with the documentation package. So, clearly, this isn't the whole story.

Maybe the keyword is "some files"? I did delete all but English user guide... and did end with the endless reboot loop. I never moved or symlinked the .documents directory.

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	Texrat	2008-10-03 , 19:33
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby

Yes. Please see bug # 3749.

Comments from 4 different people, but only one vote.

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	Texrat	2008-10-03 , 19:36
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Originally Posted by vinc17

What??? Here SSU failed just because I removed user files. I would have never thought this would be a problem.

That response has nothing to do with the quote you responded to.

If SSU fails just because the user has removed user files, this is entirely Nokia's fault.

I didn't say Nokia had no responsibility.

Please read and respond more carefully, thanks.

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Laughing Man	2008-10-03 , 19:46
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Originally Posted by amigokin

This is why the Internet Tablet ecosystem sucks. This kind of things does not happens with an iPhone update.

err. actually it does. Maybe not as often though since iphones are locked down so there's not much u can modify without jailbreaking it.

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vinc17	2008-10-03 , 20:00
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Originally Posted by briand

Was it that the user files were removed, or that the .documents directory was moved or removed?

I didn't remove the .documents directory: some of my own document files (e.g. note.note.html from Notes) were in this directory, and I didn't want them to be removed. I just removed PDF files, and perhaps ~sfil_li_folder_user_guides since this directory became empty (but I don't remember). BTW, I thought that these PDF files were just files installed by default, with no relation with the package system (in Debian, documentation is in /usr/share/doc, never in the user's home directory).

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sjgadsby	2008-10-03 , 20:00
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man

err. actually it does. Maybe not as often though since iphones are locked down so there's not much u can modify without jailbreaking it.

Indeed. A bug in iTunes 7.71 broke some iPhones.

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vinc17	2008-10-03 , 21:07
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Originally Posted by Texrat

That response has nothing to do with the quote you responded to.

Then you shouldn't have responded to my post: you said that users chose to take a risk by doing some actions. I did not. So, why are you talking about risks?

Originally Posted by Texrat

I didn't say Nokia had no responsibility.

But in some posts, the user is blamed just because SSU failed for no special reasons:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

Yes, well, they surely remember if they did something, and not report having done nothing when it's clearly not the case. Black periods are a symptom of a possibly severe neurological disorder.

(Really, in my case, this is nothing... except standard use of the tablet of course.)

vinc17	2008-10-03 , 21:23
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

I always remove the bundled PDFs, and have never had an issue with the documentation package. So, clearly, this isn't the whole story.

I looked at the /var/lib/dpkg/info/pre-installed-documentation-rx44.postinst script, and that's true that it should not fail just because the ~sfil_li_folder_user_guides directory is empty (unless this is due to a bug in busybox). I hope maacruz can give more information about:

Originally Posted by maacruz

It fails if the "/home/user/MyDocs/.documents/~sfil_li_folder_user_guides/" directory is a symlink or is empty. Make sure you have an actual directory with any file there.

Note 1: I'm not sure about the real cause of the SSU failure in my case. As the SSU didn't give any error message, it is really difficult to know. But if SSU really fails if ~sfil_li_folder_user_guides is empty, then this is the most probable cause of failure in my case.

Note 2: in case this is important, the MyDocs/.sounds directory was empty when I did the upgrade (but I don't see why this could be a cause of failure).