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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Well, based on the recent overclocking phenomenon I believe that you should be stress testing both the CPU and potentially the RAM too - not too sure about the internal architecture of the device itself but I am well into overclocking PC's. If they run on the same premise (ie; unless you de-link the FSB to the CPU then the RAM clocks up as you increase the FSB on the chip) then both would require stress testing, to ensure that they are able to cope with it. I have also seen that the Desktop Command Execution Widget can monitor the temperature of the CPU, meaning you can initiate a stress test and then run the same kind of code to ensure that the CPU is not frying or reaching its Tmax.
Thinking more about stress testing the device....
I'm not so sure about just opening every app available and watching thins burn...
What i think i'd like to do is get some measured tests.....
(Ie know what processes are running, and judge it on that) - do some tests and score them....
Anyone got any suggestions as to what tests, how to score etc?
If its possible it would require a port of something akin to Prime95 (using Lucas-Lehmer iterations to find higher and higher prime numbers) or SuperPi (calculating pi down to as many decimal places as possible)
Just a suggestion....
Also read elsewhere you might want to give it a facelift - if you want a hand with graphics for that one I'd be happy to lend a hand
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Originally Posted by Switch_
Wow..... Taken a look at the pi example and thats pretty good.... theres quite a few things i could do with that
Well, based on the recent overclocking phenomenon I believe that you should be stress testing both the CPU and potentially the RAM too - not too sure about the internal architecture of the device itself but I am well into overclocking PC's. If they run on the same premise (ie; unless you de-link the FSB to the CPU then the RAM clocks up as you increase the FSB on the chip) then both would require stress testing, to ensure that they are able to cope with it. I have also seen that the Desktop Command Execution Widget can monitor the temperature of the CPU, meaning you can initiate a stress test and then run the same kind of code to ensure that the CPU is not frying or reaching its Tmax.
If its possible it would require a port of something akin to Prime95 (using Lucas-Lehmer iterations to find higher and higher prime numbers) or SuperPi (calculating pi down to as many decimal places as possible)
Just a suggestion....
Also read elsewhere you might want to give it a facelift - if you want a hand with graphics for that one I'd be happy to lend a hand
Probably would be useful for the overclockers too
In a previous version there was a cpu temperature monitor - but it is very hit and miss
- so i took it out if i can figure out why, i will re-add it
Definitley any help with the fx would be appreciated - i'll have to elarn how to swap buttons for images etc....
I'm thinking of removing the tab and having a main window...
Main window
--> System
--> Comms
--> Tools
--> About (+ eventually information about the commands and lines in H/C, so a mini wiki)
Could have a healthceck symbol (like the logo) in big - each end of the cross is a different button?
- each loads up their own full screen sub-windows maybe? I also kinda like the idea of the main screen being semi-transparent - apart from the healthcheck cross? - not sure if that makes sense!
edit - completely forgot to add - QT can use CSS i think - will ask mikec
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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by nidO
Thanks nid0 - not sure on executing othe apps from mine - would rather is was all part of the same package - but will look around at pre-ready python benchmarking if there is any
nbench has been compiled for N900's, maybe you could simply include and execute that (see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=604794&postcount=3)
Alternatively, how about getting Mprime running, im sure there must be an arm-compiled copy kicking around somewhere.
(Doesnt need a gui - as i can sort that)
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2010-04-13
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With regards to basic benchmarking to begin with..... something like this could work? - it has a completion average time - so can be used as a basic score....
It allows the user to define their own starting point (IE i can count processes active and divide the total score by that to get a final score!) - it actually a python test - but relyss on the device to power it through
It allows the user to define their own starting point (IE i can count processes active and divide the total score by that to get a final score!) - it actually a python test - but relyss on the device to power it through
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Largely depends on what you're aiming for with it - As you say, pybench is mostly aimed at benchmarking the python implementation itself, rather than the hardware running it, the tests are very quick and don't hugely reflect on (or particularly stress) the hardware running it (fairly similar to the SunSpider javascript browser tests).
With regards to basic benchmarking to begin with..... something like this could work? - it has a completion average time - so can be used as a basic score....
It allows the user to define their own starting point (IE i can count processes active and divide the total score by that to get a final score!) - it actually a python test - but relyss on the device to power it through
If you're after a pure benchmark of the hardware then pybench might be a starting point (though it's likely to be relatively inaccurate for this purpose) but it'll achieve nothing for a stress-test of the cpu and memory, which is something I imagine all the overclockers would like to see - A proper stress test will need a continuous prime/pi calculation or similar.
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
I believe that the desktop command execution widget uses a simple d-bus command to run out the temperature output directly from the sensor on the proc itself - however, in your healthchek this would probably require a periodic update, say 500ms, especially if you are cheking the OC effect on the CPU. I'll find the post and find the command for you.In a previous version there was a cpu temperature monitor - but it is very hit and miss - so i took it out
Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Be my pleasure - AFAIK, the buttons are simply *.png files stashed into the repo for the app itself - aren't they? All it requires is a re-hash of the PNG using the same pixel constraints and voila, button now becomes pretty and shiny. Although this in itself may well be governed by the THEME rather than the APP.... Hmmm.....Definitley any help with the fx would be appreciated - i'll have to elarn how to swap buttons for images etc....
Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Sounds good much better GUI, and then to have the main HC cross in there too, with each section relating to an extremity of the cross. Can be done, may require image mapping in html to make it work though....I'm thinking of removing the tab and having a main window... Could have a healthceck symbol (like the logo) in big - each end of the cross is a different button? - each loads up their own full screen sub-windows maybe?
Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Makes perfect sense to me, but I was discussing this very point with someone else earlier - the "semi-transparent" effect that is applied when you move into the menu's from the main hildon desktop is actually a pixel blur effect. The problem is this (I believe, but will stand to be corrected), the coding for the menu is core to the OS whereas the coding for the apps is not interdependent on the same libraries that the OS is. Tying in the app to this parameter might be quite difficult, but I'm not a coder so haven't got a leg to stand on really. Transparency is not possible I don't believe, unless you are talking about widgets, which, to be fair, your app could easily be - as a shortcut to the main app itself....?also kinda like the idea of the main screen being semi-transparent - apart from the healthcheck cross? - not sure if that makes sense!
Dunno - I'll get cracking on some images for you to play about with. Post up here when I got some done
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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by Switch_
Ahhh if it just a dbus command i could run a single one - and have it touch refreshable at the moment - like the others.
I believe that the desktop command execution widget uses a simple d-bus command to run out the temperature output directly from the sensor on the proc itself - however, in your healthchek this would probably require a periodic update, say 500ms, especially if you are cheking the OC effect on the CPU. I'll find the post and find the command for you.
(Still learning threading to get the whole thing updatable)
Be my pleasure - AFAIK, the buttons are simply *.png files stashed into the repo for the app itself - aren't they? All it requires is a re-hash of the PNG using the same pixel constraints and voila, button now becomes pretty and shiny. Although this in itself may well be governed by the THEME rather than the APP.... Hmmm.....
Sounds good much better GUI, and then to have the main HC cross in there too, with each section relating to an extremity of the cross. Can be done, may require image mapping in html to make it work though....
5 images
central cross - then 4 buttons at the end, as long as they blend i should be able to position buttons anywhere.
I'm thinking a half top bar(just to the left of the back arrow going about 3/4 of the screen) - could be a faded green colour saying HealthCheck - Version - Screen title. Or something similar as well - can worry about that later
Makes perfect sense to me, but I was discussing this very point with someone else earlier - the "semi-transparent" effect that is applied when you move into the menu's from the main hildon desktop is actually a pixel blur effect. The problem is this (I believe, but will stand to be corrected), the coding for the menu is core to the OS whereas the coding for the apps is not interdependent on the same libraries that the OS is. Tying in the app to this parameter might be quite difficult, but I'm not a coder so haven't got a leg to stand on really. Transparency is not possible I don't believe, unless you are talking about widgets, which, to be fair, your app could easily be - as a shortcut to the main app itself....?
Will stick with an app for the moment, not tried widgets yet
Dunno - I'll get cracking on some images for you to play about with. Post up here when I got some done
Should get some free time at the weekend to give it a proper trial - but obviously whhatever you throw up so to speak, i'll get it on and see what it looks like
Thank you very much for your help and support.
(P.s. i can be found quite often on IRC in #Maemo, if needed)
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For Sound tests I suggest to also add earspeaker tests.
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edit - completely forgot to add - QT can use CSS i think - will ask mikec[/QUOTE]
here is the guide to add your own buttons
http://wiki.maemo.org/Customising_Qt...hon_in_30_Mins
Have a look at the latest version of nclock. I like the tap on main screen to get slide out menu technique
edit - completely forgot to add - QT can use CSS i think - will ask mikec
[/QUOTE]here is the guide to add your own buttons
http://wiki.maemo.org/Customising_Qt...hon_in_30_Mins
Have a look at the latest version of nclock. I like the tap on main screen to get slide out menu technique
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Alternatively, how about getting Mprime running, im sure there must be an arm-compiled copy kicking around somewhere.