when I do a apt-get upgrade it is reporting me like 164 packages to update, most of them is system updates. I don't see any updates in app. manager. is this PR1.2 update?

I think it is. Firmware update, which is that 'Maemo 5' shown in the application manager is just a package with dependencies to the system packages. apt-get upgrade is showing the updated system packages for me as well. Qt is in there as well (libqt4-* not maemo5, which should be the case for 4.6 to replace the old 4.5.3).

there is something wrong in app manager, i had about 5 apps to update but i put it off until today, when i looked all updates are now missing and not showing up in UPDATE

was there a "maps package" update?

I saw this earlier today from apt-get update:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48637

List of the packages:
alarmd apt base-files bluez browser-eal clinkc0
connectnow-home-widget dbus dbus-x11 desktop-file-utils dnsmasq
dosfstools dpkg dsme evolution-data-server-addressbook
evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-telepathy
feedservice-utils gcc-4.2-base gconf2 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
gstreamer0.10-openmax gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-camera
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-x gtk2-engines-sapwood
gtkhtml3.14 hal hildon-application-manager hildon-control-panel
hildon-desktop hildon-games-wrapper0 hildon-home hildon-initscripts
hildon-input-method hildon-input-method-framework
hildon-status-menu hildon-thumbnail hildon-update-category-database
kernel kernel-modules libalarm2 libbluetooth3 libc6 libcairo2
libcanberra-gtk0 libcanberra0 libclutter-0.8-0 libcomapp0 libconic0
libdbus-1-3 libdbus-glib-1-2 libdsme0.2.0 libebook libedata-book
libedataserver libexif12 libffi5 libgcc1 libgconf2-6
libgdigicam-gst-camerabin0 libgdigicam0 libglib2.0-0 libgnome-menu2
libgstfarsight0.10-0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common
libgtkadi1 libgtkmozembed libgupnp-igd-1.0-2 libgwobex0
libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhildon-im-ui3 libhildon-thumbnail0
libhildon1 libhildondesktop1 libhildonfm2 libhildonmime0 libical
libjpeg62 libloudmouth1-0 libmaemosec-certman-applet0
libmaemosec-certman0 libmaemosec0 libmafw-shared0 libmafw0
libmcclient6 libmissioncontrol-server6 libmodest-dbus-client
libnice-gstreamer0.10 libnice0 libnspr4 libnss3 libnss3-certs
libohm-plugin-core0 libosso-dbus-conf libosso-gnomevfs2-0
libosso-gnomevfs2-common libosso1 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
libpixman-1-0 libpoppler0c2 libpoppler0c2-glib
libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libqt4-core libqt4-dbus
libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-phonon libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml
librtcom-eventlogger-plugins0 librtcom-eventlogger-ui0
librtcom-eventlogger0 libsoup2.4-1 libsqlite3-0 libstdc++6
libtelepathy-farsight0 libtiff4 libtinymail-1.0-0
libtinymail-camel-1.0-0 libtinymail-gnomevfs-1.0-0
libtinymail-maemo-1.0-0 libtinymailui-1.0-0 libtinymailui-gtk-1.0-0
libtotem-plparser12 libtrackerclient0 libwidgetutils
mafw-dbus-daemon mafw-gst-renderer mafw-iradio-source
mafw-playlist-daemon mafw-tracker-source mafw-upnp-source
microb-eal microb-engine microb-engine-common mini-rc modest obexd
ohm osso-af-utils osso-app-killer osso-games-startup
osso-icons-default osso-rss-feed-reader osso-rss-feed-reader-applet
osso-rss-feed-reader-lib osso-wlan posix-locales pulseaudio
pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-hal sqlite3
system-services telepathy-gabble tracker tracker-utils upstart
wpeditor0 xkb-data xserver-xomap xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev

so did you update? i'd suggest doing it through the application manager though, seems safer.

Yeah, I did not update yet - there's no way of knowing whether that's all of it and if it's safe yet. I'll wait for the application manager notification.

Ill do it? thought it was apt-get update

which i tried and got nuffink, if i need to do sommink else let me know and ill run it.

it should be safe, they don't roll out parts, it's all or nothing. especially if in the app manager you have the maemo5 update available. if not hold a bit, but if it's there, it's definitely it.