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#41
Originally Posted by korbé View Post
Yes, but the iPhone are a fast search software, Spotlight, while the N900 does not have similar software type. Yet it has the advanced indexing system Tracker.

And the iPhone OS can be displayed horizontally and vertically, while Maemo 5 can be displayed in horizontal.
But it isn't open source!
 

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#42
Just adding another pointless comparison.

iPhone:
Darwin kernel originated from BSD is a true Unix.

N900:
Linux kernel is a Unix-like implementation from scratch. Not a true Unix.
 
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#43
Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
But it isn't open source!
But Nokia will accept contributions if it replaces a feature they have developed?
 
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That's irrelevant. As long as you can replace/improve it yourself, it's just a convenience question.
 
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#45
Originally Posted by pycage View Post
Just adding another pointless comparison.

iPhone:
Darwin kernel originated from BSD is a true Unix.

N900:
Linux kernel is a Unix-like implementation from scratch. Not a true Unix.
Both OSs are not officially POSIX compatible, but conform in large part, and interestingly neither is listed as compliant with Single Unix Specification. So which one is true UNIX then?
 
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#46
Besides, iPhone OS is based on XNU kernel, which in turn was based on Mach microkernel. Whatever was not implemented by Mach was taken from BSD.
 
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#47
Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
I dont have an iphone... so i may be wrong on a number of factors...
No tryng to douse your N900 fervour here... but I think not owning and extensively using an iPhone and writing a comparative review based on feature lists is not really a way to convince people.

First of all you have to be convinced - strictly on the merits itself - not on any hatred or fanboyism - and that can only be done if you have used the device itself. You obviously haven't used both the iPhone and the N900.

And secondly why do you keep bringing up the iPhone meme whenever the merits of the N810 or N900 are discussed, yet you keep bashing the iPhone also in each thread on founded and unfounded grounds ?

Seems like a strange love-hate relationship

Best thing to do in technology world is to discuss the N900 strictly on its own terms - not on the iPhone terms or any other device's terms.
 

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#48
Originally Posted by nowave7 View Post
Besides, iPhone OS is based on XNU kernel, which in turn was based on Mach microkernel. Whatever was not implemented by Mach was taken from BSD.
I'll wait till Maemo is based on Gnu/Hurd
 
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#49
If you're not interested in the subject don't reply with noise. This way you respect those who are interested in the subject.

Originally Posted by pycage View Post
Just adding another pointless comparison.

iPhone:
Darwin kernel originated from BSD is a true Unix.

N900:
Linux kernel is a Unix-like implementation from scratch. Not a true Unix.
Only certain versions of Mac OS X 10.5.0 are UNIX (r) (tm).

Although it has its side effects, being that it cannot be used with anything except your bare finger.
However, you can use a stylus on the iPhone which resembles a finger.

The main advantage is that you could use your swap memory to open many applications simultaneously.
At what performance cost though.

9. Full QWERTY tactile keyboard Vs Only on-screen keyboard.
Full QWERTY onscreen keyboard
OTOH the iPhone OSK has good quality. Its interesting to note why the G1 with Android dropped keyboard.

12. Internet calling Vs None

This means voip calls can be made using the n900
Easily solved with jailbreak. Will Maemo 5 have equivelant of push notifications?

13. Maemo browser powered by Mozilla technology Vs Safari without flash.
Adobe Flash™ 9.4 support
Idem dito, and Mobile Safari ad blocker costs 2 EUR or sth.

14. Pre-loaded Ovi Maps application Vs None
Those are just maps. Google Maps does not come with preloaded maps, but there are now 3rd party applications which come with offline maps. For voice guided turn by turn navigation on either device you have to pay a subscription. No matter if its TomTom or Ovi Maps, it will cost money.

18. Background pictures Vs None.
Something like this is possible on iPhone with jailbreak.

19. Widgets on your desktops Vs None
With jailbreak you can make the iPhone's default interface more informative but by default you're right. This does give a peace of mind when you start though.

20. Intelligent contact shortcuts Vs None
Agreed, good point, this would be something I'd have expected from Mac OS X and Apple.

21. PDF reader Vs Safari handles pdf
Which PDF reader is being embedded here? Often holes are found in PDF readers.

Now some advantages of the iPhone 3GS:
1) Hype / trend.
2) Market penetration.
3) 'iPhone' always refers to latest device.
4) Big developer base.
5) Big user base.
6) iTunes integration, more known that Ovi.
7) Champion in UI consistency

And for N900:
1) Nokia brand recognition.
2) No childish App Store reviewing. Nokia doesn't have the name to censor and protect stuff like Apple does.
3) A clear, new path from Nokia.
4) Like you said the 32 GB flash on board with microSD slot is a huge advantage. Its pathetic the difference between devices price is only one feature: on-board flash size.
5) Many people own iPhone 3G instead of iPhone 3GS. The iPhone 3GS is not a big upgrade compared to iPhone 3G, while the N900 will provide far better performance than iPhone 3G.
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#50
Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
I'll wait till Maemo is based on Gnu/Hurd
Well, in that case you'll be waiting for a loooong, long time...
 
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