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2019-11-23
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completely agree...
and anyway...
the entire maemo line were for enthusiasts ....sooooo...that is hardly an impediment.
and hurdles, obstacles, barriers and the like are completely a given for us to overcome...
Soooooo...
yet again...
I laugh in the general direction of a few or multitudes of bugs...
Bugs can be overcome.
Bring the pinephone on...I say.
and anyway...
the entire maemo line were for enthusiasts ....sooooo...that is hardly an impediment.
and hurdles, obstacles, barriers and the like are completely a given for us to overcome...
Soooooo...
yet again...
I laugh in the general direction of a few or multitudes of bugs...
Bugs can be overcome.
Bring the pinephone on...I say.
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Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2019-11-23
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to any doubting in this thread, last week i've ordered 'brave heart' initial batch (possible hw defects, no os, early adopters only). yay!
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oscp - media player with network remote and almost no dependencies (pc/lin/win/maemo(n8x0/n900), x86/x64/armel/armhf) - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 - if you like it, tell others.
contact with me: #osc or #maemo on freenode/ircnet or /query KotCzarny
oscp - media player with network remote and almost no dependencies (pc/lin/win/maemo(n8x0/n900), x86/x64/armel/armhf) - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 - if you like it, tell others.
contact with me: #osc or #maemo on freenode/ircnet or /query KotCzarny
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2019-11-29
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About Pine64:
I agree that they are more honest than Purism.
But let me tell you about my Pinebook (which I have since sold on):
It is built as cheaply as possible. That's why it's so cheap.
Seriously, the build quality, the keyboard, the screen... it works. That's about the best one can say about it.
No comparison to Nokia N9/N900.
Software-wise:
Pine64 do not make any sorts of promises or assurances there.
You buy the device, that's it.
Somebody else ported some Linux distro.
The enthusiasts never tell you about the disadvantages; who wants to admit defeat?
My biggest gripe was that there was NO stable GPU driver apart from the fallback driver. Video playback was between painful and impossible.
I'm not dissing Pine64, believe me.
I much prefer their business model to that of Purism.
But they're not producing miracles, there's a reason why and how their stuff is so cheap.
Also you will have to pay taxes/customs when purchasing directly from China. A lot. The pinebook + accessories cost me 110€, add to that shipping, paypal taxes, import taxes, I payed 213€ in the end. Not bad, huh?
Similar things will apply to the Pinephone.
I agree that they are more honest than Purism.
But let me tell you about my Pinebook (which I have since sold on):
It is built as cheaply as possible. That's why it's so cheap.
Seriously, the build quality, the keyboard, the screen... it works. That's about the best one can say about it.
No comparison to Nokia N9/N900.
Software-wise:
Pine64 do not make any sorts of promises or assurances there.
You buy the device, that's it.
Somebody else ported some Linux distro.
The enthusiasts never tell you about the disadvantages; who wants to admit defeat?
My biggest gripe was that there was NO stable GPU driver apart from the fallback driver. Video playback was between painful and impossible.
I'm not dissing Pine64, believe me.
I much prefer their business model to that of Purism.
But they're not producing miracles, there's a reason why and how their stuff is so cheap.
Also you will have to pay taxes/customs when purchasing directly from China. A lot. The pinebook + accessories cost me 110€, add to that shipping, paypal taxes, import taxes, I payed 213€ in the end. Not bad, huh?
Similar things will apply to the Pinephone.
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2020-01-19
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PinePhone Braveheart edition start shipping January 17th
https://www.pine64.org/2020/01/15/pi...-want-to-know/
Really looking forward to some brave reviews ...
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2020-01-19
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when i get mine i will surely post
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oscp - media player with network remote and almost no dependencies (pc/lin/win/maemo(n8x0/n900), x86/x64/armel/armhf) - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 - if you like it, tell others.
contact with me: #osc or #maemo on freenode/ircnet or /query KotCzarny
oscp - media player with network remote and almost no dependencies (pc/lin/win/maemo(n8x0/n900), x86/x64/armel/armhf) - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 - if you like it, tell others.
contact with me: #osc or #maemo on freenode/ircnet or /query KotCzarny
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2020-01-19
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Same here
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Technically, there are three determinate states the cat could be in: Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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2020-01-20
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The last batch of PinePhone for Asendia-Mail and I hope do not get crushed mine.
https://twitter.com/thepine64/status...18715557236738
Last edited by carlosgonz; 2020-01-20 at 12:53.
https://twitter.com/thepine64/status...18715557236738
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2020-01-20
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Just got the tracking number, though looks like the package has not yet been picked by the carrier.
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2020-01-20
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Originally Posted by nonsuch
I think everything you say is true, but I would like to add my personal experience with Pine64 to offer another perspective.
About Pine64:
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I own three Pine64 SBC's (RockPro64, Pine64-LTS and a PineH64), a Pinebook Pro and have a PinePhone incoming. The SBC's all work quite well, running images/kernels that I've taken from various places (e.g. Armbian and Manjaro). It took a while before images showed up that supported all the hardware, but they got there.
The Pinebook Pro especially is a delight. It's very well built and sturdy, and the screen is very nice. The keyboard is OK and the trackpad is not so good. I'm running KDE Manjaro on it and graphics hardware acceleration, wifi, bluetooth, sound etc. are working. The battery life is extremely good, I can get +/- 10 hours out of it when surfing the web. For me that was a first on Linux. Perfect 'consumer' laptop for when you sit on the couch
Since the PinePhone is receiving equal (if not more) amounts of attention than the PineBook Pro, I think support for it will be very good as well. Maybe it will even replace the Nexus 5(X) as the go-to development test device for Linux-based mobile OS's.
We'll see. Whatever the case, I think Pine64 is achieving some great things for the open-source (hobby) community. They're very open in their communication and are not constantly over-promising, and they proof that things can be done for cheap and can still be good.
Let's see how the PinePhone turns out. I have high hopes
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Sony CMD J6 > HTC Canary > HTC Universal > Nokia N82 > Nokia N8 > Nokia N900 > HTC One X > Jolla > Nexus 5 > Nexus 5X > Pixel 2 / PinePhone
Sony CMD J6 > HTC Canary > HTC Universal > Nokia N82 > Nokia N8 > Nokia N900 > HTC One X > Jolla > Nexus 5 > Nexus 5X > Pixel 2 / PinePhone
Now compare that to purism where AFAIK they still has not send a darn kit to the kde/ubuntu touch developer.
Pine also has got alot possitive attention from various Linux podcasters. Very much more "good" attention that purism who has mad alot of mistakes and made alot of people pissed in the community.
But do not forget pine have told many times in interviews this phone is for entusiast and it will have limitations and bugs.
Again compare that to purism where they over and over spread marketing ******** and do not deliver what promised.
When librem tells we soon shipping a real working FCC certified device. pine only send a limited sets of devkit phones and make sure to tell all it is beta also for much lower price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYeZVXyFRx4