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2016-08-17
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The question remains: why can't someone (for example, your source 
) just leak them?
) just leak them?
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2016-08-17
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Originally Posted by pichlo
well, leaks are immoral, heh
The question remains: why can't someone (for example, your source
Look at Snowden, and the bad rep given to Wikileaks lately...
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2016-08-17
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Of course they are! So is a lot of other things.
well, leaks are immoral, heh
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2016-08-17
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Originally Posted by juiceme
I hope your smiley meant you are joking, but the wording lets me doubt it. Don't confuse immoral with illegal.
well, leaks are immoral, heh
Look at Snowden, and the bad rep given to Wikileaks lately...
What Snowden did was in no way immoral. He exposed the wrongdoings of the NSA. The case with Wikileaks is similar.
These people are heroes, they sacrifice, or at least risk, their personal freedom just for the chance to stop these wrongdoings.
Its like saying a guy who exposes a group of human traffickers acted immorally because he exposed his working colleagues.
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2016-08-17
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Morality, like truth, is not something universal, hanging in the air. It is subjective and depends on where you stand. For some, Snowden "exposed NSA's wrongdoings". For others, he "threatened national security".
Regarding the topic of this thread, I know that some people believe that sacrificing anything and everything on the altar of their open-source god is never immoral but the truth is that the sources are Nokia's intellectual property and it is up to Nokia and Nokia alone to decide whatever they damn please with them, however inconvenient it might be for you. Making that decision for Nokia and leaking them would be not only illegal but also immoral.
But, as I say, so are a lot of other things.
Regarding the topic of this thread, I know that some people believe that sacrificing anything and everything on the altar of their open-source god is never immoral but the truth is that the sources are Nokia's intellectual property and it is up to Nokia and Nokia alone to decide whatever they damn please with them, however inconvenient it might be for you. Making that decision for Nokia and leaking them would be not only illegal but also immoral.
But, as I say, so are a lot of other things.
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2016-08-17
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#47
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ach!
gone are the good old days....
when something "immoral"
was actually something fun ...
now the definition has morphed into.....
ach!
I don't even know what to call it now...
gone are the good old days....
when something "immoral"
was actually something fun ...
now the definition has morphed into.....
ach!
I don't even know what to call it now...
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2016-08-17
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Originally Posted by pichlo
It would have to be the janitor. I guess nobody else gets down to the basement with cobwebs where the old backup tapes are being forgotten...
The question remains: why can't someone (for example, your source
Even for N900 PR 1.3.1 (the final one that just updated some certs) Nokia had to restore the source from backup tapes. That leaves good hopes for the whereabouts of the Maemo/MeeGo sources.
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2016-08-17
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#49
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Get over it.
The question remains: why can't someone (for example, your source
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2016-08-17
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
This forum is testament to how unlikely that would be.
Get over it.
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