I was once scammed by jolla during the tablet and still not got my money even do that Iam bought everything put in the market.

Now, I have always thought I was supporting an INDEPENDENT os. But lately it looks like a Russian proxy(read: trojan horse) taking over the ship.

And that would be OK. After all it’s a business so money is needed. But then should announce that running a Russian OS.

But now to the part that worries me. I don’t really know if I support Putin or not while buying from jolla. And that is not an uncertainty I like to have when supporting something labeled: Independent!

I smell a scam.

Yeah, don't buy Jolla. Don't give your euros to the commies who eat children

PS Sometimes I wonder who's better at brainwashing - "free" western world or poor failing totalitarian states.

Then you should travel the World

it’s fine with US and Russian OSes. But don’t try to sell it as independent OSes. To me that’s a Scam.

and how is that relevant here? If anything, it just says to me to stay away from another paranoid country OS.

... and Jolla Ltd. (Hong Kong).

This conversation is running in the same circle, as the corresponding one on TJC did three weeks ago.
I tried to extract and summarise the hard information from the cloudy statements in a comment there.

For me I do not care about Jolla, totally disappointed what is happening... librem-5 will the exit on this.

Come telling me telegram is secure once its backend code is public domain.

Such as Sailfish

I would never have expected to agree with any Dave's post with the s-word in it, but that is precisely what I do now. This whole thing smells dodgy. Approach with caution.

@lantern, presumably the evil commies do not eat their own children. Even Sting said so.

Well according to this article consumer sales in Russia haven't gone that well. A rather harsh article.

https://sivtelegram.media/complete-f...rtphones/5336/

Not only harsh, but also poorly written. The last paragraph does not make any sense at all. "In a soup to the base"? "Dealers managed to sell at least smartphone"? WTF?

EDIT
Wow, every single article written by Jan Hartman, whoever he/she/it is. Looks 100% credible, innit?

They all look like they were written by a machine or at least in a language very different from English and then translated by a machine, without a human editor.

Flagfox says the site is based in Ukraine. That makes sense.