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#41
Originally Posted by ldrn View Post
I am surprised by that page on Debian armel, actually -- I'm pretty sure you don't need vncviewer. OS2008 can handle normal X11 apps just fine, and in linux, the server and client layers can be separate. I can run Firefox or OpenOffice over ssh from my linux machines just fine, although the icons on the left are wrong.
The benefit of vncserver / vncviewer is that you can use the virtual keyboard, etc, and your linux-style desktop is just another app on your menu bar.

I can get X forwarding from my other linux machines, too. I don't know how to get X forwarding from a chroot on the local machine. Anyone who can explain it to me? Feel free to start a new thread; I guarantee you'd have an audience.
 

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#42
That explains it! I never even thought of that; using the N810 has spoiled me as far as input is concerned. I always just assumed the on-screen keyboard somehow worked anyway... <_<; I guess that means a non-hildonized package for abiword wouldn't work at all for you guys... ouch.

(Sorry for causing the thread to go on a bit of a detour.) In interest of getting it back on track a bit, has anyone tried compiling javaless Open Office with the patches Fedora-Arm eabi is using? That'd run into the same not-hildonized problem, though, I guess.

Last edited by ldrn; 2008-01-22 at 18:57.
 
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#43
I found openoffice compiled for arm without java while reading about fedora port for armel, here is the link: http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/p...armoabiport01/ and rpms at
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/p...armeabiport01/

I tried to install it on memory card (i linked opt to local and installed local-mmc1 before that), but I'm getting error for wrong architecture (is any difference between arm and armel architecture?). Maybe dpkg -i --force-architecture will do the job?
And one more question, can we use umsdos file system on our tablets? I think it is best solution for installing apps on memory card.
Please sorry if I wrote something wrong, I have n800 for a very short time, I'm using linux every day for a few years, but n800 is still something new for me.
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#44
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
There is LaTeX for the Nokia Internet Tablet? Where can I find it?!?!?
See http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=11481
 
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#45
Yes but this version of TeX is not for OS2008 or is it?
 
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#46
You might be interested to search for the new "AbiWord on 2008?" thread where I'm running a private (aka, you just have to PM me) beta test of the new version of AbiWord for both Bora and Chinook (2007 and 2008). I'd appreciate testers who can really find bugs and narrow down how to reproduce them, as well as those familiar with Maemo programming to figure out where those bugs are and get them fixed. I also need one or more Debian packaging experts to help package our plugins - right now only the main app is packaged.

[EDIT: PS. Yes, armel is different than arm - you basically won't get anything running well, if at all, on the tablet unless you build it in scratchbox, and hildonization is necessary if you want to use the little features like a menu button, etc...]
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#47
Code:
Also we are working on getting more packages
(such as Openoffice.org) compiled and added
to armel port.
This is good news, right? Comes from debian-news.net, on march 7th.
I really want ooo - don't like koffice, and I also have tried the original M$ Office for the mac on my IT with the Basilisk emulator, but it's too old to manage modern file formats and things I pretend I need.
I don't care it's not hildonized, it's tiny and the so. Give me OOO!
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#48
Just for fun, I configured my Ubuntu Linux PC to run an SSH session at 800x480. I SSH'ed from my tablet, and ran OpenOffice. Not bad, actually. This is what it would look like on the tablet, under a window manager like KDE (this was Gnome, but close enough):



Some of you may have seen this already, over at the screenshots thread, but I thought it would be good to post it here so you have an idea what a non-Hildonized OOo would look like on the tablet, now that it looks like it might actually happen.

You probably wouldn't have the top and bottom task bars for a bit more precious vertical screen real estate.

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#49
It would look like that, but I don't think it would feel like that. OOo is slow on a desktop; running it locally will teach patience, I guess.
 
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#50
I think, as a tablet owner, you have two choices:
  1. Use your tablet rarely or for very limited purposes,
  2. Learn patience.

Come to think of it, those "choices" really aren't even mutually exclusive.

Perhaps, in a couple of generations (OS2010?) the NIT might be consumer ready, but at the moment, it's a really cool hacking device that rewards patience and curiosity.

Back on topic: I wonder if the EABI version of OOo (lacking, at the very least, Java) would, by necessity, be leaner and therefore run more efficiently? I know OOo can run acceptably on a Pentium III 800 mHz, and that's the fullly-bloated version.

I also want to say that I'm very very excited by the progress being made by the Maemo Abiword developer and his beta testing team. They're busy hacking down the bugs even as we speak, including the MS Word import module. Go see the Abiword beta test thread referenced earlier in this thread if you can help by beta testing.

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