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Originally Posted by SD69
How strange. I don't know too much about the financial side of software/licensing etc.. But I would assume that if you had 2 identical pieces of hardware, but one had Symbian running on it and one had Maemo, the latter would be cheaper...? Of course Nokia now owns Symbian completely so once again, would this not affect the total price of a handset?
That's the ironic part. open source software is supposed to be cheaper than other software, but the NITs are not cheaper. While Maemo is based on open source, and is relatively open, its advantage to the user is not price. The advantage to the user is that it's a better OS for handheld touchscreen devices. Most of the advantages are on the SW developer side. So far, Nokia hasn't sought to license Maemo.
Originally Posted by lm2
Ha, I can definately say I've not heard that one before!
If it had been two words, you could have accused them of jumping to conclusions. For I had always thought it was short for "avoid flamings, not constructive feedback."
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Originally Posted by gammer
An interesting conclusion to jump to, though not one backed up by a whole lot of evidence. Remember, RX-51 doesn't have the same carrier expenses as a real cellphone, and, besides, several Nokia representatives have repeatedly stated their intention to keep the next tablet inline price-wise with previous generations.
If N900 is simply larger than N97 then it's also more expensive.
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Originally Posted by flamingsnot
Generally yes, although software can be licensed for free even though its proprietary. Open source generally implies unrestricted use and ability to make modifications. And remember maemo is not completely open source, although open in many ways that foster sw development. But we are talking about a niche product here in the NIT and so there are many other factors affecting price. Since Symbian is licensed to other OEMs, and maemo is not, that probably affects the price. IOW, there are no competitive devices that also run maemo, but there are competitive phones that run Symbian.
How strange. I don't know too much about the financial side of software/licensing etc.. But I would assume that if you had 2 identical pieces of hardware, but one had Symbian running on it and one had Maemo, the latter would be cheaper...? Of course Nokia now owns Symbian completely so once again, would this not affect the total price of a handset?
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Open source is free as in beer when you grab what others have done and integrate it as is. Which is not the case of Maemo, where a lot of OSS features and bugfixes are developed, funded, integrated and tested by Nokia.
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Originally Posted by qgil
Ahhh, yeah that makes sense
Open source is free as in beer when you grab what others have done and integrate it as is. Which is not the case of Maemo, where a lot of OSS features and bugfixes are developed, funded, integrated and tested by Nokia.
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#47
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Why not?
Remember, RX-51 doesn't have the same carrier expenses as a real cellphone
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
That's interesting! Where? Can you post a link?
...several Nokia representatives have repeatedly stated their intention to keep the next tablet inline price-wise with previous generations.
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Originally Posted by qole
Because it doesn't have voice? This one should be pretty clear.
Why not?
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Here, from the Summit, and elsewhere. I don't have links handy.
That's interesting! Where? Can you post a link?
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Clear to you; I suspect the carriers will be less clear on the subject.
Because it doesn't have voice? This one should be pretty clear.
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
[citation needed]
Here, from the Summit, and elsewhere. I don't have links handy.
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Originally Posted by qole
Voice adds another layer of certification requirements. These certifications cost money, which shows up in the cost of the device. . . .
Clear to you; I suspect the carriers will be less clear on the subject.
Originally Posted by qole
Take it or leave it, I don't have the time to dig up the quotes at the moment.
[citation needed]
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