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#41
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
there's one of a file chooser dialog in one of the pre-alphas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--zN8RmXOcI

seeing this, i hope there'll be at least whiz or bang added to the final product
In defence of Fremantle, I have to say I wasn't pressing the mouse very trusting, and in a device the behaviour is better than seen in the video.
As Stskeeps says, it's running in Mer, so the new Hildon widgets can be tested with an device.
Also, other Fremantle widgets can be seen in this screenshots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yerga/s...7612365187767/
or here (are the same): http://share.ovi.com/channel/yerga.Hildonwidgets
Though, they are from the first alpha (without theming), and they could have changed in the updates.
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#42
Originally Posted by hns View Post
I found a workaround: Add the following line to the "Device" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
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Originally Posted by bijjal View Post
It did not work for me.. I have tried with just the AccelMethod option and also the ones in the workaround link. Is there something more that I have missed?
me neither, extremely frustrating.
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#43
Originally Posted by yerga View Post
In defence of Fremantle, I have to say I wasn't pressing the mouse very trusting, and in a device the behaviour is better than seen in the video.
Oh... that. I didn't refer to the kinetic scrolling (couldn't care less). It was the overall clumsiness and looks of the thing.

And, again: The original point was answering the question if what we're seeing from the UI in this alpha is (close to) the final UI. My bet was "no", because the reason given for not offering Maemo5 to N8x0-owners was "the revamped UI relying on graphics acceleration" (see here). Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.
 

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#44
Originally Posted by lcuk View Post
me neither, extremely frustrating.
*Sigh* Now it's back to very slow for me, too, after working fluidly this afternoon. Didn't change anything, and haven't been taking any drugs. Very mysterious. At least now I know how it's *supposed* to work.
 
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#45
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.
Let me just clarify what I meant - libhildonfm2 + libhildon from fremantle works fine, and i have seen no use (yet) of GL acceleration in these. There might also be a performance benefit of having PVR2D acceleration in Xorg with regards to kinetic scrolling etc.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle says it quite clearly what clutter is used for:

Fremantle introduces a new UI framework which uses Clutter OpenGL library. It provides the following functionality:
* Window manager
* Task Launcher
* Task switcher
* Home view
* Status menu and status area
* New Hildon notification API for handling desktop notifications.
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#46
Originally Posted by bijjal View Post
It did not work for me.. I have tried with just the AccelMethod option and also the ones in the workaround link. Is there something more that I have missed?
Your AperTexSize has to be accurate though.

Did you restart X?

This works for me:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "intel"
Option "AperTexSize" "262144"
Option "XVideo" "1"
Option "XaaNoPixmapCache"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
Option "DRI" "true"
Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
EndSection
Now its smooth again
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#47
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Oh... that. I didn't refer to the kinetic scrolling (couldn't care less). It was the overall clumsiness and looks of the thing.

And, again: The original point was answering the question if what we're seeing from the UI in this alpha is (close to) the final UI. My bet was "no", because the reason given for not offering Maemo5 to N8x0-owners was "the revamped UI relying on graphics acceleration" (see here). Now because we see nothing that relies on graphics acceleration so far (and Stskeeps tells us it runs fine under Mer), either they dropped the idea of a UI relying on graphics acceleration (which would be a good thing, as it would bring Maemo5 to my N800) or, more likely, we haven't seen the real thing yet.
Well, the new hildon-desktop we are seeing in the picture of the announcement is based in clutter and libmatchbox2 (what depends on clutter too).
So I imagine it's relying in graphics acceleration.
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#48
And here the next SharePy version running in Fremantle.
It's running in plain gtk without hildon and looks fine anyway, except the images in the treeview are with 'bad' colours.
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#49
As a comment aside, it's a bit weird that this thread hasn't been taken to the home. I wonder if Reggie & Roger are aware?

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#50
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
It's a little bit complicated to use... like you have to scroll all the way up again if you find that the file you're looking for is not in the currently selected directory, but in one of its sub-folders. a good chooser would let you select directories from an additinal tree on the left. (there's a very good reson why file choosers normally have two or even more lists to select directories, files, recently used... blabla). in this case obviously form didn't follow function, but was dictated other factors.
I like the look of the single column chooser, and would like to see something similar for a file manager (as long as there is a way of copying to other folders somehow). I find that each column in the current 2-column view on Maemo 4.1 a bit too narrow so that I cannot read an entire file or folder name.
 
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